Dreger: Kiprusoff to not move, retire at end of the season

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by Wronskian

Give me a break, I don't care if he has a family, to me he's just an asset. Get off your high horse.

He's not an asset anymore though. His contract, age, and willingness to retire (which is completely within his right, and should come as no surprise to anyone) means that he, as an asset, is literally worthless for trade.

[Senator Clay Davis]

This thread really needs some cheese to go with all the whine.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Not sure what posting a self portrait of yourself really accomplishes, but I'm sure there was a point to it.

LOL.

Really?

I know you are but what am I?

You ARE a teenage girl!

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

Yet apparently he has no qualms taking the Flames money as he wrestles with his doubt.

Quit trying to paint him as some kind of hero.

WHERE am i painting him as some kind of hero?

The facts are what they are, I am merely the messenger.


Get a grip man.

[Wronskian]

I think this is being overblown. We shouldn't really have to be discussing his personal life, everyone has their own issues and whatever. The thing is, it's a business decision and he impeded the Flames from making a deal that would be beneficial to the franchise. I'm not sure how that can be overlooked.

Maybe I'm being a bit harsh, but I see absolutely no place for sentiment in pro-sports. The money and fame these guys get is more than enough compensation for being traded and having to relocate.

If he wants to retire, thats fine. But if he doesn't have an NTC in his contract, then he shouldn't be able to refuse a trade. It's as simple as that.

[trublmaker]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

LOL.

Really?

I know you are but what am I?

You ARE a teenage girl!

wow has this thread ever degraded, way to go buddy.

[bigtmac19]

Originally Posted by 89revival

Cover your eyes sweetie, we`re talking about hockey players, let`s not get too dramatic.

Bite me!

[trublmaker]

Originally Posted by Wronskian

I think this is being overblown. We shouldn't really have to be discussing his personal life, everyone has their own issues and whatever. The thing is, it's a business decision and he impeded the Flames from making a deal that would be beneficial to the franchise. I'm not sure how that can be overlooked.

Maybe I'm being a bit harsh, but I see absolutely no place for sentiment in pro-sports. The money and fame these guys get is more than enough compensation for being traded and having to relocate.

If he wants to retire, thats fine. But if he doesn't have an NTC in his contract, then he shouldn't be able to refuse a trade. It's as simple as that.

where did he refuse a trade?? when did he ever say I'm not accepting a trade??

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by JazzyFlame

The people defending kipper have to opinions:

He's tired of being thrown under the bus by his defence, thats why his play is ####ty. He doesn't care.

HE does'nt have to agree to a trade wah wah wah

Guess what he can't have his cake and eat it too.

We get it, you don't like what Kipper's done. Stop shoving it down peoples throats.

[photon]

Originally Posted by RT14

It became public knowledge that he had at the very least told Feaster that he needs to be confronted before any trade was made.

Where? I haven't seen anything to confirm this other than speculation.

Originally Posted by RT14

If we knew that, the other 29 GM's had to have knows it as well. If you're another GM, without hearing that, why would you need to get a guaranteed extension when he's already signed for another year?

Maybe they're after more than 1 year? That's still requiring an assumption to squeeze a fact support a hypothesis.

Originally Posted by RT14

I would put good money on the extension requirement being a result of he and his agents requirements. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but that's how I see it right now.

He and his agent's requirements about what? Deciding not to retire? Well of course, if he's offered an extension, he can decide if he wants to take it or not. Nothing wrong with that. And a trading partner has to decide if they want to make a trade with or without an assurance of an extension.

Originally Posted by RT14

Just disagree on the first part which leads us to him having to speak to other teams GM's and explain himself in such a way.

Him explaining himself is with respect to if he wants to sign an extension or not, and the only way a team can find out if he's willing to sign an extension is by talking to him.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

LOL.

Really?

I know you are but what am I?

You ARE a teenage girl!

Lol, says the guy posting the childish pictures and throwing a tantrum.

[Tinordi]

Please don't close or alter this thread

[Hockey_Ninja]

I've seen some bad threads on CP but this one might just take the cake. I'm losing brain cells just reading these arguments.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Wronskian

I think this is being overblown. We shouldn't really have to be discussing his personal life, everyone has their own issues and whatever. The thing is, it's a business decision and he impeded the Flames from making a deal that would be beneficial to the franchise. I'm not sure how that can be overlooked.

Maybe I'm being a bit harsh, but I see absolutely no place for sentiment in pro-sports. The money and fame these guys get is more than enough compensation for being traded and having to relocate.

If he wants to retire, thats fine. But if he doesn't have an NTC in his contract, then he shouldn't be able to refuse a trade. It's as simple as that.

He didn't refuse a trade.

The only rational conclusion you can make in this instance is that Kipper is pondering retirement at the end of the season and any team that has any interest in him isn't willing to part with assets for a 36 year-old under-performing goalie with a $5 million cap hit (knowing full well he still has the capability to be elite, and, probably with the shelf life of goaltenders, should be for a few years to come) without a contract extension and full commitment going forward.

[JazzyFlame]

Originally Posted by $ven27

We get it, you don't like what Kipper's done. Stop shoving it down peoples throats.

[RT14]

I hate how almost every thread that should have good discussion gets ruined by people on extreme ends of BOTH sides of the argument.

Almost every topic lies somewhere in the middle of both lunatic sides, but nothing really gets said in the end because what's the point of posting reasonable thoughts when they get buried in crap.

[Nyah]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

I've seen some bad threads on CP but this one might just take the cake. I'm losing brain cells just reading these arguments.

Indeed. A pretty embarrassing spectacle by both sides.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by trublmaker

wow has this thread ever degraded, way to go buddy.

Right. It's all on me.

In this thread we have a handful of people stating that in their opinion, Miikka's adopting a position that is not in the best interests of the team and, according to credible reports, is effectively imposing a NMC that he does not hold.

On the other side, we have a hysterical mob who froth at the mouth over any slight, real or imagined, against Miikka, who by the way, deserves sainthood and the Nobel prize for his selfless contributions to the the Flames success(?) since 2004.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ

The only one stirring up drama is you. Well, there are others.

Nice pic, btw. Did you take this of yourself while crying to sleep last night?

The personal insults to long suffering in regards to this pic is much more disgusting than any comment towards Kipper in this thread.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by $ven27

We get it, you don't like what Kipper's done. Stop shoving it down peoples throats.

I think the Spazzyflame username is still available.