Now that the Rebuild is here...

[Regorium]

I think it's great. I think Kipper should also be moved (his own wishes be damned), and maybe if there's a taker for Giordano. Cammalleri probably should be moved as well but not sure if there'll be takers.

However, I do want the organization to hold on to a couple players - Tanguay, Hudler, Glencross and Wideman. Not because they'll help us get wins, but I really think that responsible playmakers and finishers like that really help the confidence of young players. I can imagine a brand new franchise center playing with Tanguay, an extremely responsible winger that can generate offence, which would do wonders compared to just having a "young guns" line that'll get scored on continuously and have immense pressure to make things happen.

A powerplay quarterback like Wideman is also great where you can help put your young players in positions to succeed.

Not to say that they shouldn't be moved if an amazing deal came along, but I wouldn't be choked if they stayed.

[Joborule]

Glad that they're finally not focusing on this year and looking to build towards the future.

I'm worried though that King still isn't willing to accept the word rebuild. If he can't accept that is what they have to do (and showing actions towards doing that very thing), I'm wary of what they may attempt to do in order to try to get back into the playoffs as quick as possible. Of course that should be the goal, but do it right, and don't sacrifice the future just for short term gain that isn't going to get you the cup.

I'll feel better if Feaster is revealed and King is removed from hockey ops, and someone with good hockey credentials is brought in to be the President and/as well GM of the team. Feaster has admitted that he has shown that he's not good at evaluating the potential of his roster, reckless and incompetent in the ROR fiasco, and not good at making trades.

A good GM knows how to get more than market value for their players when they're selling. The Iggy trade was fair though could be better, but I expected JayBo to yeild a bit more. Don't see the need for another goalie as well. Should've got another forward prospect as well. Not to mention all his talk has been proven to be not up to it's worth.

If his whole resume with the Flames have been filled with majority of failures rather than success (I can only think of the Horak trade, which I'll give props to due to circumstances), he doesn't he's the person for the job now in this rebuild phase. If Edward and the owners bring in someone that knows how to build a team basically from scratch, then I'll have good faith in this rebuild being executed well, and shouldn't take longer than 4 years at most to get back into the playoffs.

[North East Goon]

I am ecstatic that we are making moves for the future, and as others have said the cap space is going to be huge as well.

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by Regorium

However, I do want the organization to hold on to a couple players - Tanguay, Hudler, Glencross and Wideman.

Yes, they can play the parts of Bure, Hoglund, Titov and Hulse.

[Ezio]

Oilers fan for 15 years and it's been the most dreaded, most depressing and most embarrassing time to be a fan of a team finishing in the bottom 2. But this is the right move for the Flames, as much as I hate to admit it.

[Jackpot_Smooth]

Originally Posted by North East Goon

I am ecstatic that we are making moves for the future, and as others have said the cap space is going to be huge as well.

Not sure if it's been mentioned yet but with that cap space, i can see taking on a contract or two from other teams in exchagne for more draft picks just because the flames have space to absorb a teams bad contract. LIke calgary sending a second (i think) to buffalo to take kotalik (sort of).

[Badger Bob]

Originally Posted by Regorium

I think it's great. I think Kipper should also be moved (his own wishes be damned), and maybe if there's a taker for Giordano. Cammalleri probably should be moved as well but not sure if there'll be takers.

However, I do want the organization to hold on to a couple players - Tanguay, Hudler, Glencross and Wideman. Not because they'll help us get wins, but I really think that responsible playmakers and finishers like that really help the confidence of young players. I can imagine a brand new franchise center playing with Tanguay, an extremely responsible winger that can generate offence, which would do wonders compared to just having a "young guns" line that'll get scored on continuously and have immense pressure to make things happen.

A powerplay quarterback like Wideman is also great where you can help put your young players in positions to succeed.

Not to say that they shouldn't be moved if an amazing deal came along, but I wouldn't be choked if they stayed.

Thoughtful post, but something makes me think that Tanguay could start moping with the losses piling up next season. If he does, the goals dry up and attitude starts to leave a negative impression around the locker room.

[Robbob]

I actually think that they might rebound a lot quicker then some of these other teams on the bottom. I think this team differs from the young guns era in the fact (IMO) we have some depth. In a year or two I think if you look at Baertschi, Gaudreau, Granlund, Jankowski, and Potential picks from this years draft you have a decent pool of prospects to fill top 6 forwards (you could also add Backlund to this list). I think the bottom six players also have a decent pool of players with Bouma, Reinhart, Deblow, Arnold, Niemz, Horak, and Gordon that could possible battle for a few positions. Sure nothing is a sure thing but I definitely feel better with this batch vs the young gun days.

[Hatter]

This needed to be done. However, more of the stench from the last few years needs to be removed. I hope Feaster trades Tangs and Gio, even though it is unlikely. Both players should be able to fetch multiple 2nd round draft picks or prospects.

Next year, I'd like to see Feaster overpay multiple free agents on short term deals similar to what Neiuwy did with Jagr. Ideally with 2013 draft talent and free agents, the Flames have turned it around and made the playoffs. If not (which truthfully is far more likely), these players can be flipped for picks at the deadline. Rinse, repeat until the rebuild is over, and our own young talent takes over the team.

[Stay Golden]

I don't see how they will attract UFA's these are the main reasons a UFA make their decisions as far as I can figure.
And our depth in the AHL is grim even with these 1st round picks I don't want them rushing these kids they draft in 2013 but then again i don't want our record of not developing prospects taint the talent either.

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Quality of living in Calgary unless the UFA is looking for beaches
Cup contender
Playoff team
Players that are a draw
Coaching Staff
Canadian Hockey Fans Base

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by stay golden

i don't see how they will attract ufa's these are the main reasons a ufa make their decisions as far as i can figure.
And our depth in the ahl is grim even with these 1st round picks i don't want them rushing these kids they draft in 2013 but then again i don't want our record of not developing prospects taint the talent either.

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Quality of living in calgary Unless the ufa is looking for beaches
Cup contender
Playoff team
Players that are a draw
Coaching staff
canadian hockey fans base

fyp

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by North East Goon

I am ecstatic that we are making moves for the future, and as others have said the cap space is going to be huge as well.

I keep seeing this, but I wasn't sure how it helps us. Then I thought about next year. There will be two buyouts per team, and many tabs will be willing to pay with high priced assets to get under cap. Question is who do we look for, and will we have to also trade assets to get them? Looking at St Louis, how do they re-sign all those guys? Do they trade one? How much would it cost?

[Teroy]

The big factor next year will be the reduced salary cap. Teams will be scrambling to reduce. A few teams like Calgary will have space to acquire UFA's. I doubt that UFA's will have the pleasure of being as fussy as they normally would. The Flames could do well.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by PeteLFan

At least they are getting picks.

We better so a good job at this draft.

This. I'm happier with the returns than most, because of the 1st rounders attached. But they've basically put all their eggs into this draft. Blow it and things will get very bleak. Most important draft for the Flames in a very long time, probably ever.


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[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Teroy

The big factor next year will be the reduced salary cap. Teams will be scrambling to reduce. A few teams like Calgary will have space to acquire UFA's. I doubt that UFA's will have the pleasure of being as fussy as they normally would. The Flames could do well.

And players under contract. There are likely many owners not willing to give money out of they can trade another asset of high cap hit to get under the cap, or RFAs if the price was right

[Reign of Fire]

Since its here, I am hoping the rebuild is handled by someone else. Still don't have faith in Feaster to build a Cup contender.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Teroy

The big factor next year will be the reduced salary cap. Teams will be scrambling to reduce. A few teams like Calgary will have space to acquire UFA's. I doubt that UFA's will have the pleasure of being as fussy as they normally would. The Flames could do well.

I think that would be a mistake really and you can chalk it up to another casualty of starting the rebuild 2 years too late.
Calgary needs to spend a couple of years at the bottom, pick up at least 1 top three pick plus 3 or 4 mid to lower 1sts, I would let the team carry on being lousy for another year or two and only seriously hit the free agent market when 2 or 3 of the new players are ready to make an impact.

The absoloute last thing the Flames want to do is put together a team that stays in the lower end playoff race by dint of older relativaly expensive UFA's, it is essentially what they have been doing for the last 4 years.

[Stay Golden]

I wonder when management gets off their butt and actually starts to call up any players.
I guess that is one way to achieve No winning for MacKinnon

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

I wonder when management gets off their butt and actually starts to call up any players.
I guess that is one way to achieve No winning for MacKinnon

Once the deadline passes.

Have the players ready to go and call them up tomorrow. No need to have them here prior to face the media hotstove with all the speculation surrounding Calgary.

[PeteLFan]

They key is that we can't find ourselves in this position again. Once you draft well and use these 3-4 1st round picks and stock up, you can't sit in your hands and say well that's it we did it.

Once we have a formidable again, we need to focus on drafting and developing. We can't start doing the trading picks and prospects thing again. Keep our picks value our picks.

The reason we are here today and our franchise leader is gone is because we made short sighted moves. There was no long term plan, and of there was one I don't think it was a good one if it included the likes of Dustin boyd and Greg nemiesz.

Hopefully the 2013 NHL entry draft is a brand new beginning for this team going forward.

Key will be stability with a GM and a organizational philosophy on players and drafting those players and developing them into NHL players.