[News] Toronto and another team granted permission to talk to Kipper

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by skcli

I hope it is not Pittsburgh ?

Maybe they got excited for getting Iggy so cheap. They´re going to fool Feaster twice.

[Husky]

If Kipper is traded Toronto would most likely send back one of their goalies plus a pick is my guess.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Also NMC really hurt the return for a player. Kipper might not have a clause but it looks like they are treating it as a NMC.

Yup, it's all about the ntc. Everyone and their dog sees why that effected Iginla's true value. Only those still trying to show how right they were are pimping anything but.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Why do the Leafs even need a goaltender like Kipper? Reimer and Scrivens have played well for them.

really???? !!!


That is like the Devil's going with Hedberg last year instead of Broduer.....


Broduer carried the Devils to the Stanley cup finals.... winning 14 games.....


Hedberg was a better goalie for them during the regular season. He got 34 minute of clean up time in the Devil's playoff run.




Kipper makes the Leaf's have a chance to be this year's LA Kings or at least the NJ Devils.


There is no team that would want to face the Flames in the playoffs for the last 3 years....... because Kipper could easily steal a series.

[the_only_turek_fan]

I think Scrivens would come back with a third rounder or something along those lines.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Kiprusoff was one of the best goalies in the game five years ago. At this point, he has not played any better than Jose Theodore or Simyeon Varlamov. Christ, Leland Irving has better stats than Kipper.

Kiprusoff is not a high-end goalie anymore. He is old. He may or may not retire at season's end, and the goalie market itself has never really lent itself to massive overpayments. Kipper is not worth a first rounder or a high-end prospect.

When Dwayne Roloson was traded to the Edmonton Oilers, he had a 3.00 GAA, a .910 save percentage, and was 36 years old.

Kiprusoff hasn't had a good year. He's been on a garbage team. He's been on garbage teams for three years. He's prevented garbage teams from being lottery teams for two years.

The goals he's letting in are going in because he is mentally fried from being thrown to wolves every night, and playing in an environment where he feels he has to be letter perfect or his godawful team has no hope in hell of winning. If he is given ANY ray of hope, he is going to return to form. Goaltending is a mental game; his reflexes are fine. He's FAR from done.

[Savvy27]

Kiprusoff is going to bounce back and be a star for a team without the porous defence of the Flames. If all we get is a 2nd or 3rd round pick, we got fleeced. I'm starting to hate reading this site. Pure negativity and pessimism.

[drPepper1]

Prob get a third, exactly what we got him for

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

I think Scrivens would come back with a third rounder or something along those lines.

I'd be fine with this.

[orr444]

Any guesses on the other team involved with kipper? Maybe the blues?

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Table 5

If Kipper is retiring, a conditional 2nd is the best we could all hope for.

If he is staying around however, and we can't get better than a Conditional 2nd, I'd rather we just hold on to the guy and see what happens in the summer or next year. Chances are, his play and value will bounce back next year.

Then you are delaying the rebuild process by not getting the assets now and working on developing them. Who's to say the market now won't worsen later, when more goalies are available? Time is now for moving him.

[GreenLantern2814]

One other question, how the hell does Domenic Moore get a 2nd round pick every deadline but one of the winningest goalies of the last decade barely warrants a 3rd?

[Flame Of Liberty]

Feaster can't possibly win with trading Kipper, no matter what he does. What he does with Bouw, Calamari, Tangs possibly Stempniak and others will make or break future of this team.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by drPepper1

Prob get a third, exactly what we got him for

Traded for a 2nd, sir.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

One other question, how the hell does Domenic Moore get a 2nd round pick every deadline but one of the winningest goalies of the last decade barely warrants a 3rd?

Because Dominic Moore doesn't have an .873 save percentage. These teams aren't trading for 2007 Kipper.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

When Dwayne Roloson was traded to the Edmonton Oilers, he had a 3.00 GAA, a .910 save percentage, and was 36 years old.

Kiprusoff hasn't had a good year. He's been on a garbage team. He's been on garbage teams for three years. He's prevented garbage teams from being lottery teams for two years.

The goals he's letting in are going in because he is mentally fried from being thrown to wolves every night, and playing in an environment where he feels he has to be letter perfect or his godawful team has no hope in hell of winning. If he is given ANY ray of hope, he is going to return to form. Goaltending is a mental game; his reflexes are fine. He's FAR from done.

Bit of a difference between a .910 sv% and the .873 sv% Kipper has this year...

[sureLoss]

I think Steinberg said that a good measuring stick of how close a deal is on whether Kipper starts tonight.

[NuclearFart]

Is anyone else wondering if this is posturing by the Leafs to get leverage on a Luongo trade? Seems suspicious how quickly this went to the media.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by orr444

Any guesses on the other team involved with kipper? Maybe the blues?

My guess is Carolina.

[_Q_]

My guess is the trade goes down as follows:

To Toronto:
Miika Kiprusoff

To Calgary:
Tony Cameranesi (NCAA player, undersized, former 5th rounder, nobody heard of him... checks all boxes)
Andrew MacWilliam (see Tony above, but picked in 7th round, not undersized and from Calgary)

I'm actually half joking.