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moon · 04-01-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Murph

Has it been clarified if the discussions are regarding an extension or just if he'll report?

Dreger said it was for an extension.

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

I don't disagree, but now this organization completely lacks a face.

I think that a new face is what this team needs and fact we haven't had one/don't have one has been a problem.

Probably will be the draft pick/Sven going forward.

Resolute 14 · 04-01-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

This is terrific news. Means Feaster is dealing from a position of strength now.

Cart before the horse. The strength of Feaster's position is limited by the number of teams Kipper would report to.

Either way, you're still not getting a first or a top prospect.

Muta · 04-01-2013, 05:31 PM

I do not trust Feaster to give us a return that CP will smile at.

I have learned to lower my expectations when it comes to this man and his ability to ass-rape other teams.

kyuss275 · 04-01-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

This is terrific news. Means Feaster is dealing from a position of strength now.

He is only dealing from a position of strength if the other team is bringing Kipper in to be the starter. Kipper is not going to allow a trade so he sits on the bench.

Tinordi · 04-01-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Glad to see this myth still persisting. Is it not obvious that the team is terrible and no amount of coaching was going to save it. Infact Sutter probably had a worse roster to deal with last season than Hartley.

Hockey_Ninja · 04-01-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

CP is going to explode on Wednesday.

If the forum held up when Iggy was traded it should be fine once Kipper and possibly Bouw and others are dealt.

StrykerSteve · 04-01-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Cart before the horse. The strength of Feaster's position is limited by the number of teams Kipper would report to.

Either way, you're still not getting a first or a top prospect.

Never said they would.

Mid-prospect + 2nd is my expectation. That return is a stretch if you only have one team in on it, but with competing offers, you should net that return.

moon · 04-01-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by goflamesgo18

Dont understand how everyone is undervaluing one of the best goalies in the game. Having an off season obviously but he is definitely worth more than everyone on this forum is saying. He is signed next year for 1.5 million and if Toronto can convince him to play out the last year on his contract then his trade value is even higher.

Toronto would probably prefer to pay him 5.8 and have his cap hit be 1.5. They don't need to care that much about real dollars and cap space more valuable to them.

PeteMoss · 04-01-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Muta

I do not trust Feaster to give us a return that CP will smile at.

I have learned to lower my expectations when it comes to this man and his ability to ass-rape other teams.

Have you looked at Kipper's numbers and his cap hit? Anyone expecting a big return is just setting themselves up for disappointment.

AC · 04-01-2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

CP is going to explode on Wednesday.

I suspect we may see most of our moves tomorrow instead since we play Wednesday night. We have a few extra defencemen hanging around to fill the gaps, but no forwards (right?).

browna · 04-01-2013, 05:33 PM

Whether not at the same level as they were or not, you take away the franchise's best player, and the franchise's best goalie, both class acts, likely both HOF'ers, well respected, humble, guys that poured their heart and soul into this city and franchise for over a decade, it hurts.

Kirpusoff never got the full credit he deserved while here, pulling the spectacular wins, but many many many wins that relied on making the tough save that on other goalies, when they go in you'd say "good shot". Playing drama free in net, hard enough to come by in the league these days, and outside of two injuries in a decade, reliable as a rock, also a rarity that Flames fans may not be so lucky to see for another decade, just like after Vernon left.

It also means that there better be 5 or 6 other guys at least that are gone before 1pm Wednesday for this dismantling to be worth it.

For those fans who've had financial interest in the Flames for the past decade and have had the privledge of watching these two guys win games on their own for the Flames and represent the best of the franchise, there is no sense in holding onto some of the total losers that are left on the roster.

Ring of Fire · 04-01-2013, 05:34 PM

Prospects Feaster/Weisbrod may be interested in and I think may be included in a potential return for Kipper:

Matt Finn
Joe Colbourne
Ben Scrivens
Kenny Ryan
Andrew MacWilliam

Heavy Jack · 04-01-2013, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by moon

Dreger said it was for an extension.

I think that a new face is what this team needs and fact we haven't had one/don't have one has been a problem.

Probably will be the draft pick/Sven going forward.

This is exactly what Sven doesn't need right now, he's not skilled enough to just step into something like that and if he has the pressure to be the Face right away that has disaster written all over it. Guys like Gio and one of Tangs/Cammy should be the face for a few years. If we pick a Mackinnon or a Barkov or a Jones it's different, being a face of the franchise is part of being a top 3 pick which the Flames could easily have this year.

nik- · 04-01-2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

I don't disagree, but now this organization completely lacks a face.

??

mrdonkey · 04-01-2013, 05:35 PM

Don't know who else but the Leafs would even want Kipper at this point. Phoenix maybe?

PeteLFan · 04-01-2013, 05:36 PM

Is the other team Pittsburgh ?

Heavy Jack · 04-01-2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinordi

Glad to see this myth still persisting. Is it not obvious that the team is terrible and no amount of coaching was going to save it. Infact Sutter probably had a worse roster to deal with last season than Hartley.

Dude its a joke. Sutter inherited a ticking time-bomb, I know, but its still funny in a way.

Dion · 04-01-2013, 05:36 PM

ricardodw · 04-01-2013, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Have you looked at Kipper's numbers and his cap hit? Anyone expecting a big return is just setting themselves up for disappointment.

All of Kipper's numbers this year have to be viewed through the prism of playing in front of the softest NHL team ( there are a few beer league teams and women's team that may be softer) put together in the last decade.

This is the only team that basically does absolutely nothing when the goalie is run....

If Kipper is run while playing for Toronto a lot of somebodies are gonna get a beating.

StrykerSteve · 04-01-2013, 05:37 PM

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In 616 career games with the Flames and Sharks, Kiprusoff has posted a 317-208-7-64 record with a 2.48 goals-against average and a .913 career save percentage. Kipprusoff has appeared in 56 career playoff games, posting a 25-28 record with a .921 save percentage and a 2.32 goals-against average.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=419626

No way you give this guy up for a mere third round pick.

Right? Someone hold me...