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[bradster57]

Liked it. I thought it was a foregone conclusion that Rick was going to kill the Governor, probably like most people expected.

Interested in what happens next season, I have a feeling they won't be at the prison for long and they'll be back to a small group in no time.

[trackercowe]

Just wondering, the kid that Carl shot, was that the son of the guy who was with Tyrese' group? Or was he just some random?

[Regulator75]

The Son (I think).

[doctajones428]

Originally Posted by Regulator75

The Son (I think).

Merle killed the son (Ben) when he attacked the Governor's men

Originally Posted by OldDutch

- Michonne, dynamic with Andrea, wasn't seen after. What will become of her?

Michonne was at the prison when they brought in the others from Woodberry

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by doctajones428

Merle killed the son (Ben)

Huh that's strange, the father didn't seem too down about it.

I didn't understand how the Governor's group bailed on the attack after two people starting shooting at them. That's really all it took to call the entire attack off, and send them back to Woodberry? Pathetic. I get that some of them weren't up for fighting, but why bring them along in the first place tThhen? It seemed like there were many capable people Rick brought back on the bus who could have put up a fight. That and they were all complete morons to take their entire force into the prison, and not have people on the outside watching for the prison group.

I was hoping Rick and Co. would just lock them all in there, only to blow the place up or release some walkers on them while stuck inside.

And then of course everyone has pathetic aim as per usual.

[doctajones428]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Huh that's strange, the father didn't seem too down about it.

I didn't understand how the Governor's group bailed on the attack after two people starting shooting at them. That's really all it took to call the entire attack off, and send them back to Woodberry? Pathetic. I get that some of them weren't up for fighting, but why bring them along in the first place tThhen? It seemed like there were many capable people Rick brought back on the bus who could have put up a fight. That and they were all complete morons to take their entire force into the prison, and not have people on the outside watching for the prison group.

I was hoping Rick and Co. would just lock them all in there, only to blow the place up or release some walkers on them while stuck inside.

And then of course everyone has pathetic aim as per usual.

Yeah Ben's dad didn't seem to upset (Allen) but he did mention something on the lines of "They killed my boy" before they went into the prison

It was pretty goofy that they took off like that, but they were reluctant to go attack them at the start. Guess they had to write in the Governor killing all his people somehow.

The Governor was so hellbent on killing the group that he sent everyone in the prison to have a massacre, guess he was too caught up to even think of a smart plan

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Just wondering, the kid that Carl shot, was that the son of the guy who was with Tyrese' group? Or was he just some random?

I thought it was the asthma kid, but I wasn't sure.

[peter12]

That kid was handing that shotgun over all suspicious-like. I think Carl was pretty cold-blooded, but his reasoning to shoot was partially justified.

As to whether or not the gunfights are realistic enough... I've read that it took over 3,000 rounds of ordinance to kill or wound a single soldier in the Vietnam War. Most of the time, soldiers fire to keep enemy heads down, not to kill.

Great episode.

[Ozy_Flame]

Hated the episode. Incredibly anti-climactic, and way too humanitarian for a show otherwise known for its plot twists and ruthlessness in killing off characters.

And for a chick who survived a warehouse full of zombies and the Govenor, Andrea couldn't survive an attack from that meek housefly Milton? Uh huh. I'm just glad she's dead.

And it was NOT a surprise she was killed off, as the host of the Talking Dead so valiantly informed.

[AC]

What I don't get is why Milton didn't just crawl over and hand Andrea the pliers while he was dying? He bled out for over an hour it must have been, so it seemed like he had the time to do it.

[Radio]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Huh that's strange, the father didn't seem too down about it.

I didn't understand how the Governor's group bailed on the attack after two people starting shooting at them. That's really all it took to call the entire attack off, and send them back to Woodberry? Pathetic. I get that some of them weren't up for fighting, but why bring them along in the first place tThhen? It seemed like there were many capable people Rick brought back on the bus who could have put up a fight. That and they were all complete morons to take their entire force into the prison, and not have people on the outside watching for the prison group.

I was hoping Rick and Co. would just lock them all in there, only to blow the place up or release some walkers on them while stuck inside.

And then of course everyone has pathetic aim as per usual.

Just because they were carrying guns doesn't make them a force. Like the lady said, just before the Governor went berserker on them, they were up for killing walkers not people that were shooting back. The people of Woodbury just don't have it in them...

[Russic]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Hated the episode. Incredibly anti-climactic, and way too humanitarian for a show otherwise known for its plot twists and ruthlessness in killing off characters.

And for a chick who survived a warehouse full of zombies and the Govenor, Andrea couldn't survive an attack from that meek housefly Milton? Uh huh. I'm just glad she's dead.

And it was NOT a surprise she was killed off, as the host of the Talking Dead so valiantly informed.

Can you elaborate?

Looks like Carl is primed to go full-Shane next season.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Russic

Can you elaborate?

She was a guest on Talking Dead a week or two ago, and apparently got a bit emotional at one point. Kind of a give away, in hindsight.

[Stranger]

Not a bad episode. I kept waiting for the hint about where they are going with season 4, but it never came. Kind of like last season when they showed a glimse of the prison and Michonne came to rescue Andrea.

[Bertuzzied]

Yeahhhhh! Best episode ever!!

Andrea even terrible acting with her dying speech! hahaha.

Course why the hell would they not keep woodbury instead of the prison??? makes no sense.

[MrMastodonFarm]

The Prison makes a lot more sense.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

The Prison makes a lot more sense.

Wouldn't they have more food and supplies at woodbury? not to mention better housing electricity and showers?

Besides there are only 3 of the bad guys left anyways. It would be just as easy to defend woodbury from the Governor than the prison. Where did he go anyways?

[Daradon]

Mixed emotions.

I think my favorite part might be how Carl is losing his humanity. It makes sense, spending his formative years doing what he's had to do.

I do agree with the people that said, the killing of the kid may have been justified though, it seemed like he was kinda suspicious, might make anyone pull the trigger.

Someone tells you to put down the gun you just drop it, you don't edge closer to them and you don't try to hand it to them.

On one hand you could say the kid was just scared, which is probably true, he probably just wanted to obey as best he could. But then you'd have every right to say that Carl was scared too, because the of the way the kid was approaching him.

So, I do think it was justified. Course, that's not the way they're playing it, so we'll see what happens.

Kinda funny Hershel doesn't jump in and diffuse the situation before it goes to far. Put down the gun kid! Now! Don't get any closer!

But of course he couldn't because they needed Carl to do what he did. But in retrospect it kinda makes Hershel seem like a dick that he was the adult in the situation, coulda did more to try and prevent things from flaring up, and then he comes back and blames Carl for what he did.

I'm sure that's not what the writers intended, but the scene kinda played differently then they intended I think.

Also wonder about leaving Woodbury for the prison. I guess there are pros and cons both ways.

Also agree that the governor losing his poop and shooting everyone felt rushed and like it didn't quite belong. But meh, finally happy they are moving on. The Woodbury thing has so much potential and it just didn't deliver.

Andrea, what can I say. If she hadn't been blabbing so much to Milton when he was sying maybe she coulda saved herself. Oh well... Even, with me not liking the character I'm shouting at the screen 'You can have you special moment AND try and grab the pliers at the same time!' Heh. Well, in my head I was.

Course she had to die, and the writers made it so by making Milton a quick turn. There could be a hundred reasons why she would live, but things gotta piece together so she dies. Had a feeling they might.

I can't believe the writers made the 'safety' joke in her dying speech. Lame. Well, thankfully it's over now.

So where do we go from here? What happens next year? Does the governor return with his two henchmen? I have a feeling we see him eventually, though not soon. To the series I mean, not necessarily the prison.

Also a bit of a writer fake out/cheat. They easily could have written in that the surviving woman told Rick and the others that she saw (or heard) the Guv drive away and he wasn't dead yet. (If that's in fact what happened which I'm sure it did) I'm sure she would have in real life if it happened. Especially if she just saw him do what he did. It would be one of the firsts things she did when they found her. The Guv is still alive! He got away! But that can't reveal that to us cause they want the suspense.

Meh, like I said. Mixed feelings. Rambo Glenn and Maggie was cool.

[GreenLantern]

Thought that episode was horrible for a finale, especially after all that build up. They bust into the prison, we don't even see one of them die the whole time but they call it a "slaughter". Was that just me? Or did it seem like they failed to kill anyone, on either side. So two people firing from behind metal plates can chase off 20+ armed 'soldiers'.

So the Governor finally snaps, that part I saw realistic as this guy is nuts, but why would his henchmen not gun him down, this guy is clearly not stable, you could be next. And instead of going back to Woodbury they just take off, no closure on the Governor at all. After fricken 14 or whatever it was episodes of build up he just leaves in a truck, and we don't even get to see where he goes.

Then Andrea dies a pointless death, but at least we get some closure on it. As a stand alone episode with the action we did get to see I would give it a 6/10, but as a season finale, in a season where they spent numerous episodes simply building to this, 1/10.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Wouldn't they have more food and supplies at woodbury? not to mention better housing electricity and showers?

Besides there are only 3 of the bad guys left anyways. It would be just as easy to defend woodbury from the Governor than the prison. Where did he go anyways?

But if you want a fortress the prison is better. So much easier to improve the defences.