03-30-2013, 03:23 PM
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Took an arrow to the knee
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
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Did the Blues honestly think they could get Bouwmeester for a Leopold price? If true, that's sad. I would have to think this wouldn't affect their decision to continue to pursue Bouwmeester, though, as Leopold does not fill the role Bouwmeester does, not even close.
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03-30-2013, 03:25 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
Did the Blues honestly think they could get Bouwmeester for a Leopold price? If true, that's sad. I would have to think this wouldn't affect their decision to continue to pursue Bouwmeester, though, as Leopold does not fill the role Bouwmeester does, not even close.
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It sounds like it's more of an internal budget thing. Flames better be willing to eat some salary on JBO if they want a great return.
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03-30-2013, 03:26 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Calgary
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Well, let's hope Detroit can pony up.
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03-30-2013, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Flames0910
Well, let's hope Detroit can pony up.
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Detroit just signed DeKeyser. Could be they're out of the running as well.
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03-30-2013, 03:29 PM
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Detroit just signed DeKeyser. Could be they're out of the running as well.
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If they think that kid is going to give them any short term help, well then Ken Holland is no longer running that team.
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03-30-2013, 03:39 PM
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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When is the last time a player made the jump directly from college to the NHL? For that matter, the only league players make the jump from is the AHL 99% of the time and I can tell you from having seen DeKeyser play several times that he is nowhere near that 1%.
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03-30-2013, 03:55 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Hope this doesn't mean they're out on Bouwmeester... Leopold is a bottom pairing defenceman at best these days.
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Completely untrue.
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03-30-2013, 04:02 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
Did the Blues honestly think they could get Bouwmeester for a Leopold price? If true, that's sad. I would have to think this wouldn't affect their decision to continue to pursue Bouwmeester, though, as Leopold does not fill the role Bouwmeester does, not even close.
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This is completely true.
Leopold is not a top pairing guy. As well as he played for the Flames for a few years, he probably wasn't then either. However, he is much more than a bottom pairing guy. He can run a PP, is decent in his own zone and has a very, very good first pass.
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03-30-2013, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
Completely untrue.
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Look at some Buffalo fan reactions on HF... they've been calling him Joran Leopol all season.
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03-30-2013, 04:04 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Good return for the Sabres.
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03-30-2013, 04:26 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Haifa, Israel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
Leopold is not a top pairing guy. As well as he played for the Flames for a few years, he probably wasn't then either.
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In 2005/06 he had more TOI than Phaneuf and Hamrlik. In 2003/04 he had more TOI, than Toni Lydman (who went to Sabres after lockout and led them in TOI on that ECF team). If memory serves me, he also was top pairing guy for USA national team back then. He was legit top pairing guy in his prime (2003-06).
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03-30-2013, 04:28 PM
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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These are the sorts of trades I wish Feaster was making.
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03-30-2013, 04:42 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Perth Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
I think the Flames should go after Myers. I wonder if their first rounder could be had at any cost? Maybe Myers + their first for Gio and the Pens first.
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I like that a lot. We can potentially have 2 picks in the top 5 
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03-30-2013, 05:00 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by dino7c
hmm, wonder what kinda picks
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Draft picks. It's in the original post.
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03-30-2013, 05:09 PM
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Leo was playing 21 minutes a night for the Sabres; 2nd most on their blueline
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03-30-2013, 05:16 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canada 02
Leo was playing 21 minutes a night for the Sabres; 2nd most on their blueline
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They must be splitting it very evenly if that is 2nd most. That would be 4th on the Flames. (Jbo, Wideman, Gio)
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03-30-2013, 05:18 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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So if Leo was playing the second most minutes, would that mean he's good or the reason they are where they are?
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03-30-2013, 05:20 PM
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#38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finner
Blues out of Bouwmeester hunt it seems.
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Leopold is a depth defenseman whereas Bouwmeester is a top line guy. They don't really affect one another since they play different roles.
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03-30-2013, 05:49 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Reppin' the C in BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
These are the sorts of trades I wish Feaster was making.
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and the fact he hasn't shows just how good a GM he really is
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03-30-2013, 06:08 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
Leopold is a depth defenseman whereas Bouwmeester is a top line guy. They don't really affect one another since they play different roles.
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They may play different roles, but if a team thinks they can get away with a Leopold instead of a Bouwmeester, then that's one less team the Flames can negotiate with. While Leopold for a 2nd was about right, it puts into perspective once again the Iggy deal was a robbery. That's frustrating to me.
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