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Bonded · 03-30-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ezio

Bouwmeester isn't worth a 1st Rounder from the freaking Edmonton Oilers, let's be real. Their last 3 first rounders were #1 overall picks, but I guess there is a chance with the idiots running the team.

The Flames should get a 1st and a decent prospect elsewhere.

I think Bo is worth a first in 10-20 range depending on what else is included. Edmonton looking for sure to be top ten pick?

Although, I do doubt trading with Ed.

PeteMoss · 03-30-2013, 10:29 AM

Why is Bouwmeester not worth a top 10 pick. What are the odds you're going to get a top 1-2 defenseman who can play 25-30 minutes a game with a low pick.

Ezio · 03-30-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

Haha, so the Oilers are going to end up worse than the Flames by the end of they year? I was operating under the guise that the Oiler's had finally turned the corner and that getting Bouwmeester was what your team needed. An that your First round pick was likely going to be close to 10-17 range.

I'd be shocked if the Oilers aren't last in the West.

Savvy27 · 03-30-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ezio

Bouwmeester isn't worth a 1st Rounder from the freaking Edmonton Oilers, let's be real. Their last 3 first rounders were #1 overall picks, but I guess there is a chance with the idiots running the team.

The Flames should get a 1st and a decent prospect elsewhere.

Why do you say that? I haven't watched much of the Oilers recently, but I would think that Bouwmeester would address a very obvious and important deficiency on that team and could be a key piece to get them into the playoffs this year.

The Oilers having a top 5 pick even without Bouwmeester seems far-fetched to me, are they still that bad?

dino7c · 03-30-2013, 10:32 AM

prepare for the Butt Hurt if you are scoffing at a top 10 pick and prospect for Jaybo, we likely get far less

remember when everyone wanted to buy him out?

Heavy Jack · 03-30-2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Why is Bouwmeester not worth a top 10 pick. What are the odds you're going to get a top 1-2 defenseman who can play 25-30 minutes a game with a low pick.

Because Bouw will probably not waive to go to another bottom feeder. If we do trade him it will be to a contender -- 20-30 overall pick -- As such we should get a 2nd round pick on top of that. Say we trade him to Montreal i'd hope for a 1st from Montreal + our 2nd back + a decent prospect or young roster player i.e. Eller. Montreal has the forward depth to give up one of their young forwards.

dino7c · 03-30-2013, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ezio

I'd be shocked if the Oilers aren't last in the West.

my guess would be 12th

Ezio · 03-30-2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kn

That's what it's going to take though. If the Oilers were giving us their 1st this year for Bouwmeester straight up, I'd take it in a hearbeat.

It's off an Eklund rumor. The other offer was 2 2nds and a prospect. I think Paajarvi should be a good fit for the Flames. I'd give him and the 2nds for Bouwmeester.

Zulu29 · 03-30-2013, 10:35 AM

As much as I'd like a 1st to be included, I'd be alright with gettin two solid prospects from a good drafting team like Detroit in lieu of the 1st. Maybe add a 2nd in. I dunno, Detroit seems to have this innate ability to turn picks into players.

Heavy Jack · 03-30-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ezio

It's off an Eklund rumor. The other offer was 2 2nds and a prospect. I think Paajarvi should be a good fit for the Flames. I'd give him and the 2nds for Bouwmeester.

Keep ur 2 2nds and give us a 1st. If Edmonton trades for Bouw its cause they feel they have a shot at the show this year, put ur money where your mouth is. Calgary will want u guys to overpay if you want Bouw and that's understandable.

Buck Murdock · 03-30-2013, 10:41 AM

Trade JBow to St. Louis for their 1st round pick and Chris Stewart. Done.

return to the red · 03-30-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Keep ur 2 2nds and give us a 1st. If Edmonton trades for Bouw its cause they feel they have a shot at the show this year, put ur money where your mouth is. Calgary will want u guys to overpay if you want Bouw and that's understandable.

The asking price for Bouw to go up North will be higher then to anyone else, only because its edmonton

Zulu29 · 03-30-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck Murdock

Trade JBow to St. Louis for their 1st round pick and Chris Stewart. Done.

It's been said before and not to sound like a broken record but I really don't think St.Louis is gonna trade their top scorer. But stranger things have happened.

Heavy Jack · 03-30-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

Come on guys, he's being sarcastic.

His whole account is sarcastic.

Enoch Root · 03-30-2013, 10:45 AM

I think the Oilers finish 10th.

I can't believe I am saying this but I think Edmonton would be a good location for Bouwmeester as long as the package started with their 1st.

I am not a fan of Paajarvi, but we could use a 2nd - 3rd line RW.

I would not trade Smid if I were EDm, re-sign him, add JBo and you finally are on your way to having an NHL defense.

As long as their 1st is included, I would even be happy with something like their 1st + Khaira

kipperfan · 03-30-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ezio

It's off an Eklund rumor. The other offer was 2 2nds and a prospect. I think Paajarvi should be a good fit for the Flames. I'd give him and the 2nds for Bouwmeester.

Douglas Murray was just traded for 2 2nd's and Paajarvi is a meh prospect, likely holding the value of a 3rd round pick at this stage. Are you honestly suggesting the value delta between Douglas Murray and Jbo is 3rd pick or meh prospect? If so you've clearly never watched Murray play and are way, way off base.

drPepper1 · 03-30-2013, 10:49 AM

I'm okay with Magnus Paajarvi, doesn't seem to fit in with the oilers. He was one of the better Swedish prospects and has some history with Backlund.

schteve_d · 03-30-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ezio

Bouwmeester isn't worth a 1st Rounder from the freaking Edmonton Oilers, let's be real. Their last 3 first rounders were #1 overall picks, but I guess there is a chance with the idiots running the team.

I'm afraid we can no longer say this with our heads held high.

Savvy27 · 03-30-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I think the Oilers finish 10th.

I can't believe I am saying this but I think Edmonton would be a good location for Bouwmeester as long as the package started with their 1st.

I am not a fan of Paajarvi, but we could use a 2nd - 3rd line RW.

I would not trade Smid if I were EDm, re-sign him, add JBo and you finally are on your way to having an NHL defense.

As long as their 1st is included, I would even be happy with something like their 1st + Khaira

This seems like the best opportunity that the Oilers will have to get a top pair D without having to trade one of Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, or Hopkins. It sucks for them, but they are not an appealing FA destination, so they are going to have to get one through trade or hope to develop one. The other nice thing about Bouwmeester for them is that he likes western Canada and would probably be open to re-signing there.

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Originally Posted by kipperfan

Douglas Murray was just traded for 2 2nd's and Paajarvi is a meh prospect, likely holding the value of a 3rd round pick at this stage. Are you honestly suggesting the value delta between Douglas Murray and Jbo is 3rd pick or meh prospect? If so you've clearly never watched Murray play and are way, way off base.

Yeah, Doug Murray is a hell of a lot closer to Cory Sarich at this point than Jay Bouwmeester. Which makes me wonder... what can we get for Sarich?

Badger Bob · 03-30-2013, 10:54 AM

Expecting a 1st rounder through trade is pie in the sky. The gift here is salary relief. Anything else is gravy.