02-25-2013, 09:35 PM
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#81
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Originally Posted by Julio
This is where I can see some concern. The Aud in Utica holds less than 4000 people, and probably even less than that if they put in boxes. It's over 50 years old, only 9 years newer than the Corral. It is a really funky looking building, and is reminiscent of MSG in it's roof and shape:
Also, I realize that city populations can be misleading (Utica is under 70,000) but the whole county it is in only had a population of under 250,000. |
Is it just me or is that scoreboard hanging crooked?
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02-25-2013, 09:53 PM
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#82
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Lives In Fear Of Labelling
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zulu29
Is it just me or is that scoreboard hanging crooked?
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Nah, it looks that way cause you've only got one shoe on.
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02-25-2013, 10:51 PM
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#83
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: BELTLINE
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Originally Posted by valo403
So you're telling me that Chicago is full of Canucks fans? Hershey, PA was a Caps stronghold before the affiliation changed? Tons of Avs fans in Cleveland? And, of course that long running Houston-Minnesota connection.
The presence of fans of the parent team has little, if anything, to do with the success of the AHL team in drawing fans. IF that were the case the majority of AHL markets would fail.
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Fair point, but Hershey's AHL franchise has been around since 1938, it's very established and thus I would agree with you that it's big league team doesn't really matter at this point. I wouldn't complain if they wanted to establish an outfit in Cleveland or Houston those are huge Metro areas. I'm just saying that if they want to establish an affiliate in a (relatively) small city it might as well be one close and with a few people who care about the big league team. I'm sick of having our AHL team move all the time St John-Omaha-Quad City-Abbotsford in 10 years. Also in 2004 we didn't even have an official affiliate we had to share some random team, might have cost us a Cup...
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02-26-2013, 06:42 PM
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#84
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Albany, NY
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Originally Posted by Phil Russell
Regional airports in Syracuse and Albany--both within an hours drive of Utica. Quick connections to hubs like NYC, Toronto, Detroit and Chicago.
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Yup. Flying from Albany to Calgary is pretty easy -- frequent flights to Montreal, Toronto, and Minneapolis.
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03-29-2013, 05:32 PM
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#85
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Some more fuel to fire this rumor....
The St. Louis Blues have pulled their farm team out of Peoria starting next season and the rumored destination is:
Jeremy Rutherford @jprutherford 1m RT @j_clem: @jprutherford where will the Blues AHL affiliate play? ...It's expected the Chicago Wolves will house Blues' AHL team/prospects
Meaning the Canucks will be moving their affiliate and the Blues may sell their AHL franchise to the Canucks
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03-29-2013, 05:34 PM
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#86
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Franchise Player
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The Canucks need to buy an AHL team first.
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03-29-2013, 05:39 PM
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#87
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
The Canucks need to buy an AHL team first.
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Right and if the Blues are closing shop in Peoria and moving to Chicago.. do they need their franchise anymore?
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03-29-2013, 06:37 PM
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#88
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
The Canucks need to buy an AHL team first.
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I hear Katz is interested.
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03-29-2013, 06:52 PM
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#89
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: wearing raccoons for boots
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Originally Posted by Muta
I hear Katz is interested.
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What would he do with three?
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03-29-2013, 07:00 PM
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#90
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Some more fuel to fire this rumor....
The St. Louis Blues have pulled their farm team out of Peoria starting next season and the rumored destination is:
Jeremy Rutherford @jprutherford 1m RT @j_clem: @jprutherford where will the Blues AHL affiliate play? ...It's expected the Chicago Wolves will house Blues' AHL team/prospects
Meaning the Canucks will be moving their affiliate and the Blues may sell their AHL franchise to the Canucks |
Thanks for the additional info. I am hoping this turns out to be true and the team moves, even if its not Utica, as long as it's out east.
Maybe they can move em to Calgary for a year so they can host 2 AHL teams next year.
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03-29-2013, 07:25 PM
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#92
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: whereever my feet take me
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Originally Posted by killer_carlson
Not a fan of having our farm team more than one time zone away. I like it being close to where we play the majority of our games.
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The Saint John's Flames were 3 time zones away in the Maritimes and won a Calder Cup.
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03-29-2013, 07:33 PM
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#93
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Franchise Player
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What happens to Heat season ticket holders? Become Canucks AHL tickets instead?
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03-29-2013, 07:43 PM
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#94
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
What happens to Heat season ticket holders? Become Canucks AHL tickets instead?
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I imagine Abbotsford will give options to season ticket holders to hold on to their tickets or get a refund.
In the short term Abbotsford will gain more season ticket holders then lose
Last edited by sureLoss; 03-29-2013 at 07:49 PM.
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03-29-2013, 11:13 PM
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#96
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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It would seem to be a better market than Utica... although perhaps there are reasons why St.Louis is pulling out.
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03-29-2013, 11:18 PM
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#97
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
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Averaging 5,000 a game is pretty good, at least compared to Abbotsford's 3,700.
I don't think the Utica arena even holds 5,000. Just checked it seems it can only hold 4,000 so I don't see that being viable.
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03-29-2013, 11:19 PM
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#98
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aka Spike
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The Darkest Corners of My Mind
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
It would seem to be a better market than Utica... although perhaps there are reasons why St.Louis is pulling out.
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I would imagine St. Louis is pulling out to save money. Chicago is an independently owned team, so they just have to supply a few players and that's all the cost they'll have.
Last edited by CMPunk; 03-30-2013 at 10:29 PM.
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03-29-2013, 11:22 PM
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#99
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
Averaging 5,000 a game is pretty good, at least compared to Abbotsford's 3,700.
I don't think the Utica arena even holds 5,000. Just checked it seems it can only hold 4,000 so I don't see that being viable.
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I was in a way surprised that Abbotsford wasn't last on the average attendance - being that they are in Canucks land and all. I agree that Peoria would probably be a better destination at the moment, but I guess it will have a lot to do with what kind of contract the Heat are able to sign.
Feel bad for you PMM... looks like the move is becoming more likely.
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03-29-2013, 11:30 PM
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#100
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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We also don't know what incentives the investment group in Utica is offering the Flames.
It is easy to say that such and such city will be a great hockey market for an AHL team, but I think the Flames are more concerned with limiting the financial risk of running an AHL team rather than really building a long lasting AHL franchise. If the group in Utica is taking most of the financial burden, then I think the Flames will choose them over another city.
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