03-29-2013, 04:37 PM
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#421
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by shniper
Scumbag Flames fans: Demand rebuild or Feasters head on platter. Feaster begins rebuild, fans want head anyways.
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I just think people worry about his credibility to make the proper moves given that he can't do anything without drama it seems.
When he was hired, he also said straight up that he wasn't hired to rebuild the team and he wasn't the guy to rebuild a team.
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03-29-2013, 04:37 PM
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#422
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shniper
Scumbag Flames fans: Demand rebuild or Feasters head on platter. Feaster begins rebuild, fans want head anyways.
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It's not hard to want a rebuild not done by Feaster. He has shown he is not that great in negotiations, other teams and agents seem to have the upper hand on him. Why if doing rebuild would you want a bad negotiator in charge? He does not bring much else to the table.
I will believe he is out the door, if all the flames do this deadline, is trade off UFA's.
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03-29-2013, 04:37 PM
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#423
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shniper
Scumbag Flames fans: Demand rebuild or Feasters head on platter. Feaster begins rebuild, fans want head anyways.
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Dumb post. He is being judged on his results and his handling of various situations, not because he did or didn't start a rebuild.
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03-29-2013, 05:53 PM
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#424
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Lets face it folks. Ken King needs to be included in the title as well. His incompetence in hockey operations dates back to when Darryl Sutter was GM. King doesn't need to be fired but he does need to be promoted to strictly business operations and far, far away from the hockey operations. He's been the man in control that's turned the franchise into the laughing stock of the NHL. Feaster is a branch of the Ken King tree. Cutting a branch isn't going to kill the tree. The tree needs to be cut down.
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03-29-2013, 06:01 PM
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#425
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Lets face it folks. Ken King needs to be included in the title as well. His incompetence in hockey operations dates back to when Darryl Sutter was GM. King doesn't need to be fired but he does need to be promoted to strictly business operations and far, far away from the hockey operations. He's been the man in control that's turned the franchise into the laughing stock of the NHL. Feaster is a branch of the Ken King tree. Cutting a branch isn't going to kill the tree. The tree needs to be cut down.
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I feel like you've said two things in this post that blatantly contradict each other. What's above president/CEO? King's problem is him overstepping his bounds; telling him not to do that seems like something that would've worked by now if it was going to ever.
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03-29-2013, 06:23 PM
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#426
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Franchise Player
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From what I've heard and read on his Iginla trade negotiations, he basically told Boston and Pittsburgh that they are on Iginlas short list.
When you go to buy a car, do you tell the salesman that the car you are making an offer is on your "short list" and expect the best deal?
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03-29-2013, 06:43 PM
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#427
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
I feel like you've said two things in this post that blatantly contradict each other. What's above president/CEO? King's problem is him overstepping his bounds; telling him not to do that seems like something that would've worked by now if it was going to ever.
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I cant speak for what you are feeling but there was no contradiction. I feel King is probably too integral with the new arena to be outright fired so logically he would get promoted to a higher position where he would be overseer of the Calgary Flames Enterprise which includes the Flames, Stamps, Hitmen, Roughnecks and not president and CEO of the Flames. He won't be involved in daily operations of the Flames and more involved in the overall business of all the organizations like advertising, new facilities development, other acquisitions, etc.
You can't deny the man has strengths when it comes to the business side of professional sports so he should focus on that full time and let hockey men run the hockey operations.
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03-30-2013, 05:58 AM
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#428
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Lifetime Suspension
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Feaster certainly isn't an intelligent man, and although he is a problem, he's not *the* problem. A meddling ownership group who cares about short term profit margins above all else is the problem. They are oil barons, not hockey guys. They don't give two sh*ts about the Calgary Flames, the fans, or the on ice product. They just want revenue.
Ownership is and has been the problem for a long time.
That said, Feaster still has to go. The RoR fiasco is inexcusable.
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03-30-2013, 07:29 AM
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#429
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sherwood Park, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
From what I've heard and read on his Iginla trade negotiations, he basically told Boston and Pittsburgh that they are on Iginlas short list.
When you go to buy a car, do you tell the salesman that the car you are making an offer is on your "short list" and expect the best deal?
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Agree with you entirely, how come Pitts knew iginla would only waive for them?
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03-30-2013, 08:07 AM
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#430
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Scoring Winger
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I know Feasters hands were tied a bit on this because the list was a short one but to not even net a roster player in return is unacceptable. Why not get a teams #1 or 2 prospect, serviceable player and a second round pick? He could have traded the heart and soul of this franchise for what could turn out to be nothing.
Even the Fleury trade we got Rene Corbet, Wade Belak a second round pic( which at the time was Jarett Stoll ) and Regehr.
This was a fail and Feasters trade history so far does not fill me with warm and fuzzies going forward.
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03-30-2013, 08:39 AM
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#431
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Originally Posted by Pointman
Not defending Feaster, but could it be that management team is a little bit understaffed/overworked? Looking at all the major fails, it feels so:
1. Not checking rules on ROR waivers issue. Just didn't have an extra pair of eyes to double-check it.
2. Not recognizing Cervenka is a winger. I don't believe Weisbrod or even scouts are so incompetent that they can't tell a winger from a center. You don't even have to watch him, his center/winger thing was explained in his interview. Didn't seem to have an extra guy on the management/scouting team to dig the issue.
3. Didn't get Iginla's list in writing. Once again didn't have an extra mind to think it through.
It just feels like too much information flowing through too little braincenter thus creating rudiculous oversights. Again, I'm not trying to defend Feaster with this by any means and I don't know how big is Flames management team compared to other franchises.
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I agree with your points. I am not convinced it is understaffed but moreso the people in place are under-qualified and inexperienced. Seems like we are always getting the butt-end of the deal in returns for players that either don't fit the mandate or the mold of what the team is looking for at the time. We talk about adding size but end up with small forwards, We talk about grit so we add a fighter. We talk about playing our young guys but we keep sending them back down to the farm. We keep wavering from our original plan; Where is Roman Horak and Sven, hard to expect them to be part of the future went they can't even play on the big club? I am starting to wonder if we have too many non-hockey minds in upper management.
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04-01-2013, 07:08 PM
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#432
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Franchise Player
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I'm starting to believe Jay still has a job because there's no one else out there that wants it.
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04-01-2013, 07:09 PM
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#433
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Vancouver :(
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Are you kidding me?! Our best D man for useless prospects and a conditional pick?! Are you freaking kidding me!! This man needs to go.. He's pathetic
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04-01-2013, 07:10 PM
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#434
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Nostradamus
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: London Ont.
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This board is insane, we complain when the team trades 1st round picks for players. Then when we suck, we complain when we trade the players from the team that has sucked for 1st round picks. WTF!?!
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04-01-2013, 07:10 PM
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#435
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Franchise Player
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Feaster has proven a poor understanding and execution of asset management in the trades he has made since joining this team.
He, and whoever are signing off on these moves, needs to be let go.
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04-01-2013, 07:11 PM
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#436
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zukes
This board is insane, we complain when the team trades 1st round picks for players. Then when we suck, we complain when we trade the players from the team that has sucked for 1st round picks. WTF!?!
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Three first round picks, as a draft geek I'm overjoyed.
He got fair value for a loser like Bouwmeester.
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04-01-2013, 07:11 PM
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#437
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Franchise Player
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Having 3 1sts is nice.
Getting 4 no-name players for our two best trading chips is not.
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04-01-2013, 07:12 PM
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#438
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Sutter Sutter Sutter................................
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04-01-2013, 07:12 PM
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#439
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Perth Australia
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Two 2nd rounders for Sarich - Get it done Feaster
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04-01-2013, 07:15 PM
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#440
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#1 Goaltender
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I think Feaster is a decent guy and definitely worthy of a job in our front office.
Just not the GM. Please get Burke, or somebody that can win a trade, in there. The only trade Feaster has "won" has been with a GM that got fired 10 minutes later
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