Some legitamate questions now that #12 is gone.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by BurningSteel

I have some questions that I have been thinking about that I have seen answered partially in other threads but wanted to see more responses in one place.

This is not a thread to discuss the actual trade and its value. Whats done is done. That being said here we go:

1. There were numerous examples where Jarome was invovled in luring UFA's to Calgary by making calls on behalf of the organization, now that he will no longer be doing so what impact will that have on that market?

Calgary is still one of the bigger spenders on the market, I'm not sure that losing Iggy will have a big impact on that. Most Free Agents however will look at the gong show that is this franchise and the rebuild ahead and sign elsewhere unless Calgary is the only interested team.

Originally Posted by BurningSteel

. Jarome made huge charitable contributions namely to Kidsport, now that he is gone who (if any) steps up on that side of the business?

They'll find someone, I'm not too worried about the charitable side of the business, the Flames do a great job on that.

Originally Posted by BurningSteel

. Cup win? What impact will a win have on Jarome come July 1. If he get elusive Stanley, where will he land come July 1? If he doesnt where will he land? Will Jarome play for money or will he play to be closer to home? Not saying he comes back a flame but would he consider offers from Edmonton/Calgary (unlikely), Winnipeg? or Vancouver over an East Coast contender?

I hate to say it and begrudge Iggy, but he has never shown an interest in hometown discounts, he's also a huge union guy and will be pressured to set the market for the older good player. If he wins the cup, he'll follow the money, he doesn't strike me as the type of guy that will want to plunge into a rebuilding team and act as a mentor.

I also think that by the time that the media gets down shaking out the facts of his trade and his and the organizations role that fans will feel a little less positive about him. Just my instinct. Distance rarely makes the heart grow fonder. I'm betting that the Rangers or the Flyers or the Kings will line up for Iggy this summer.

Originally Posted by BurningSteel

. Lastly long term...Jarome is liked probably more than Conroy in the front office of the Flames organization and would likly be offered a role here post hockey life. One thing about him that has always been clear and was evident yesterday in his presser is he is a great political speaker and very diplomatic. I think this will spill over into many areas of use, so what kind of role do you think he would be offered?

I believe that Iggy will not come back to the Flames organization, I believe that Iggy has very little interest in a front office job, I believe that he is not the right personality for coaching or being a GM. I believe that this organizations and Iggy's divorce is final and firm.

I think that this summer when the details work themselves out that both parties will throw each other under the bus over this divorce and that it will be many many years before Iggy returns to the dome to get his jersey retired. I'm also betting that when Iggy wins the cup, if he wins the cup that he will go into the Hall of Fame with a Pens Jersey. I think that Iggy will act more as a spokesman for the NHL and given his ethnicity that he will be used to push the game into new markets or struggling markets, and he'll be great at it.

I'm not trying to paint Iginla as the bad guy or anything like that. but its going to be a all hands on deck by management and ownership here to protect their reputation, and its going to be all hands on deck exercise by Iggy to protect his reputation.

[Bourque's Twin]

There's no team that will pay him $7 million, especially if it's for longer than 1 year. He's going to be 36 on July 1.
I would be happy if the flames offered him 4-5 years at $4-5 million per. I know it's sort of an overpayment but I love the guy and I'd love him back.

[Iceman90]

A few more questions for this post-Iginla Flames era:

1. What player will have a funny dancing animation when they score now?
2. With Iggy gone, who am I supposed to Chill in da Dome with? "You'll Find Me In Da Dome Chillin' With Jiri" doesn't have the same ring to it.

[Nsd1]

This is going off topic but I hope he doesn't come back this offseason. This teams needs a clean break from the old guard and needs a new direction. I would love to see him back in 3 or 4 years in a reduced role when the teams set up.

[Nsd1]

Originally Posted by Iceman90

A few more questions for this post-Iginla Flames era:

1. What player will have a funny dancing animation when they score now?
2. With Iggy gone, who am I supposed to Chill in da Dome with? "You'll Find Me In Da Dome Chillin' With Jiri" doesn't have the same ring to it.

Chillin like a villain with mackinnon?

[Iceman90]

Originally Posted by Nsd1

This is going off topic but I hope he doesn't come back this offseason. This teams needs a clean break from the old guard and needs a new direction. I would love to see him back in 3 or 4 years in a reduced role when the teams set up.

We discussed that on Episode 9 of the Fireside Chat podcast. Our panel has polarized opinions, but I agree with you, I'd like Iggy to come back to finish his career here.

[Owee18]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I think if he wins the cup with the Pens he either retires or signs with another big city top end team,I'd guess LA because of the Sutter conection, or Toronto as a cap to his HoF resume, being the vetran that pushes the Leafs into a cup final asures him God status through out the country.

I don't see him playing in Calgary again, the team is too badly run and playing in Calgary comes with to much stress, I would guess he will love being in a city where he is reletively unknown and can live a normal life.

If you think calgary comes with too much stress then there is no way in this green earth he goes to Toronto!!!

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I think if he wins the cup with the Pens he either retires or signs with another big city top end team,I'd guess LA because of the Sutter conection, or Toronto as a cap to his HoF resume, being the vetran that pushes the Leafs into a cup final asures him God status through out the country.

I don't see him playing in Calgary again, the team is too badly run and playing in Calgary comes with to much stress, I would guess he will love being in a city where he is reletively unknown and can live a normal life.

Toronto? Really?? Because a) he's really concerned about further raising his reputation as a Canadian athlete b) Toront is oozing with perennial cup contending potential.

Riiight. And I'm sure he would be 'relatively unknown' in Toronto, of all damn places.

LA also made a pitch this week, but didn't appear to even be a second place choice amongst the deals that were in place. But yeah, perhaps if Pitts can't resign him, LA can make a strong pitch. But I would think that him re-signing to a team in the same division as Calgary next season would be at least a little conflicting.

Don't think either will get his services. It's more likely he'd sign back with Calgary than Toronto.

[afc wimbledon]

I think he'll retire mostly, I only add Toronto as what other challenge might he find? I cannot see him coming back to the Flames, he just looked too damn happy to get out at his presser.

You knew Ryan Smyth was devasted to leave the oilers, it was equally clear Iginla was over the moon to be out of the Flames disfunction, other than LA to be with Sutter or if he really really liked his experiance in Pittsburgh and they worked out a way to keep him (1 mill a year or the like) I figure he will retire and maybe take up a more active role in the Blazers, working his way up to coach or GM.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I think he'll retire mostly, I only add Toronto as what other challenge might he find? I cannot see him coming back to the Flames, he just looked too damn happy to get out at his presser.

You knew Ryan Smyth was devasted to leave the oilers, it was equally clear Iginla was over the moon to be out of the Flames disfunction, other than LA to be with Sutter or if he really really liked his experiance in Pittsburgh and they worked out a way to keep him (1 mill a year or the like) I figure he will retire and maybe take up a more active role in the Blazers, working his way up to coach or GM.

Oh come on! Iginla was of course very excited to go to the Pens and play alongside the best player in the world, and have the best chance he has ever had in his whole career of winning the only thing he is missing.

It was also clear to see he was sad at leaving the Flames.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by nemanja2306

I don't know. His whole life is here, and Kelowna I believe. Why would there be stress? He would have his Cup and the Flames would be in a rebuild, there wouldn't be any pressure on him or on the Flames. Imo, it's a perfect scenario.

Of course, he would need to take a paycut.

If he wins it this year, he'll have the thirst to win it multiple times. One cup ring is nice, two is better, three is sweet, so on and so forth.

He'll only come back to Flames in his final year(s) for two reasons. One, the Flames are a team that can contend for the cup; or two, he wants to end his career where it started. The latter only happens if he has won the cup by then. But one thing is for sure, Iggy is not gonna come back to Flames for three years minimum.

[goodyear]

I think Iginla's done as a Flame by then again, stranger things have happened with the team...look at all the other former players they've brought back to the organization...Vernon, Jokinen, Fleury, Begin(!) and Gelinas (as ass't coach).

No matter where Jarome goes next season, he'll probably won't have to be the go-to guy anymore and since he's in stellar shape, he'll probably play till he's 40. That's four/five years from now any maybe the Flames will be in a better shape then with Sven, Gaudreau, Jankowski and maybe even the two Pittsburgh chaps!

If the team's is contending by then, I can see Iggy making a comeback via deadline trade or something.

[Five-hole]

Monosodium legitamate

[Sakari]

Originally Posted by ThatOneFlamesFan

Apparently, some on HFboards believe

What people on HFboards believe is irrelevant.

[Sakari]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Wall o' text.

I think Iginla could very easily come back He WILL be affiliated with the team somehow. He could be an assistant coach. Having a veteran presence on a teams coaching staff could help the young players develop.

[trublmaker]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I think if he wins the cup with the Pens he either retires or signs with another big city top end team,I'd guess LA because of the Sutter conection, or Toronto as a cap to his HoF resume, being the vetran that pushes the Leafs into a cup final asures him God status through out the country.

I don't see him playing in Calgary again, the team is too badly run and playing in Calgary comes with to much stress, I would guess he will love being in a city where he is reletively unknown and can live a normal life.

riiight with phaneuf as his captain, me no think so

[Kaine]

I have a question, has it been announced or just assumed that Iggy will no longer be donating to his various charities throughout the city? Honestly I can't see him cutting the ones like his "for every goal he donates" just because he plays in a different city. I would think he still considers Calgary home, at least for the time being. Honest question tho, I haven't heard anything on the matter.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

How about a fifth question?

5-Will coaches be able to manage the team/executive easier without Iginla's influence?

[edn88]

3. So it's like Iggy has been with this plain girl for a long time, and a decade ago, when she was not too bad looking, she let him get to third base but not all the way home. Now he is with the hottest chick on the planet - and if she lets him get all the way home, I don't think he will come back to the homely girl that won't put out.

[Draug]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

This obsession with signing free agents is a big part of the reason the Flames are in the mess their in, anything that makes it harder for a half assed GM to piss cap space away is a good thing imho.

I totally disagree .... the reason the Flames are in this mess is because their scouting/drafting has been horrible for pretty much 20 years.

The problem is we havent had the good crop of young players to support the older and veteran free agents.

IMO, a winning team is comprised of both those older "purchased" players, and (more importantly) good young players coming up through the ranks.

So, I still hope they can lure free agents here without Iginla. As we deepen with young players, it'll become a more desirable place to come play as there will be upside. The roster, and the young players, will always be able to benefit from good free agent signings.