[Trade] Iginla to the Pens for Agostino, Hanowski, 2013 1st

[valo403]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Not really, at that point you still have a few days, you can imply to Iginla that you are not prepared to do the deal with the Pens, you try to get some pressure on him, you also let the Pens dangle, adding pressure to them knowing that Boston is in the mix.

And he says 'okay fine, I'll finish up the year here and walk for nothing'. Would love to see the reaction here when that happened.

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Chiarelli was extremely pissed in the press conference.

He basically stated that it was a hard draft pick.

That Feaster had informed him that he won the Iginla sweep stakes

That Feaster stopped returning phonecalls at 5 and sounds like he didn't hear back until the Penguins deal was done.

We had a done deal until the Flames went the Meehan.

Informed the Bruin players that they'd been traded.

He was very upset in the press conference, basically implied that Feaster and the Flames were bush league.

Move on and find other players.

A bit of egg on the face of the Flames here.

I doubt that he will accept anymore trade conversations with Feaster at this point.

Burning bridges. Why did he stop answering his calls.

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by JazzyFlame

The best part is, we as Calgary fans will go over this on July 5th once again.

No we won't.

[l33t_hax0r]

Originally Posted by Pointman

FWIW, their's 7.0C ratings make them 5th and 6th on our charts

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/teams/calgary_flames/

I can't tell you how much I hate this kind of reasoning. "Well, when you consider it's us, it's pretty damn good!". No, not really. It just speaks to how far off the mark the organization is. We're used to taking home the ugly chicks and now we're going home with slightly less ugly chicks. Hurray!

I also don't agree that we should be focusing on "more bullets in the chamber" as others (not you) have suggested with regards to prospects. The Flames are currently built on "decent" players. I think Darrly once said something about how he had collected more 20 goal scorers than any other team. Obviously, we haven't seen that strategy bear fruit yet.

I think we should be focusing on quality before quantity. So I like your idea of trying to add a "decent" piece to the Iginla trade to get quality. Who knows if anyone goes for it, but philosophically I think you need to go in this direction.

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Yeah, the worst thing for the Flames in this situation was to have Pittsburgh show enough interest to make an offer. When the player ultimately gets to sign off on the deal it changes the dynamic as he gets to choose exactly where he'll go.

Either way I don't think either return was great, getting a first instead of a conditional first is much better. Today it's all trivial though...time to move on. Another bad trade, by a bad team, who's tended to make bad trades when it involves them trading a good player.

It was a firm first from Boston as per Chiarelli. McKenzie said Feaster preferred the Boston deal but Iginla nixed it.

1st (Bos) + Khoklachev + Bartowski

1st (Pit) + Agostino + Hanowski

Those were the deals.

[Stay Golden]

and this from Boston today.

http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2013/0...out-on-iginla/

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

The leak (or potential of it) is the one big issue that I was curious about. If the Pens knew Iggy nixed Boston (and it's reasonable to assume they would find out), then their offer from the Pens is really just a professional courtesy to Feaster. At that point they could have offered a bag of pucks and made Feaster come and pick them up from the arena in Pittsburgh.

I think they pretty much did offer bag of pucks

[dino7c]

Bruins are BUTT HURT

[nik-]

Yup, pretty miffed that you provide a list of teams you're willing to be traded to and then refuse to be traded to one of them.

I hope they've learned the lessons around NTC's from this.

[Tinordi]

Boston's deal looks better.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

All of this is fine but then surely Feaster would have called Boston before the deal was announced to apologize and explain, no way would Boston be whinning if Feaster let them know his hands were tied about 30 seconds before he announced the deal.

In fact if Im Feaster that is part of the pressure you put on Iginla to honour his list 'I have to tell Boston you screwed them, do you want to be seen this way?'

That's pressure? You think that anyone anywhere is going to run with the 'Iginla screwed the Flames' narrative given his reputation?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

I think they pretty much did offer bag of pucks

lol 1st round pick is now a bag of pucks

[freakinsaprikin]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Chiarelli was extremely pissed in the press conference.

He basically stated that it was a hard draft pick.

That Feaster had informed him that he won the Iginla sweep stakes

That Feaster stopped returning phonecalls at 5 and sounds like he didn't hear back until the Penguins deal was done.

We had a done deal until the Flames went the Meehan.

Informed the Bruin players that they'd been traded.

He was very upset in the press conference, basically implied that Feaster and the Flames were bush league.

Move on and find other players.

A bit of egg on the face of the Flames here.

I doubt that he will accept anymore trade conversations with Feaster at this point.

There was no implication that Feaster and the Flames were bush league. He basically went out of his way to say this was the players choice and that Feaster was at the mercy of the player in the end. If your angry, it should be at Iginal and his agent, not the flames in case.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

Burning bridges. Why did he stop answering his calls.

Because he couldn't let it widely know that the list was now one team long.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Chiarelli was extremely pissed in the press conference.

He basically stated that it was a hard draft pick.

That Feaster had informed him that he won the Iginla sweep stakes

That Feaster stopped returning phonecalls at 5 and sounds like he didn't hear back until the Penguins deal was done.

We had a done deal until the Flames went the Meehan.

Informed the Bruin players that they'd been traded.

He was very upset in the press conference, basically implied that Feaster and the Flames were bush league.

Move on and find other players.

A bit of egg on the face of the Flames here.

I doubt that he will accept anymore trade conversations with Feaster at this point.

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

All of this is fine but then surely Feaster would have called Boston before the deal was announced to apologize and explain, no way would Boston be whinning if Feaster let them know his hands were tied about 30 seconds before he announced the deal.

In fact if Im Feaster that is part of the pressure you put on Iginla to honour his list 'I have to tell Boston you screwed them, do you want to be seen this way?'

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Didn't hear he didn't do that. If true - that's poor form.

See the bolded part in CC's post

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Because he couldn't let it widely know that the list was now one team long.

Yeah the instant Shero hears that it's a one team horse race the deal changes.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Didn't hear he didn't do that. If true - that's poor form.

Boston claim the first they knew they were out of it was when the deal to the Pens was announced

[liamenator]

Yeah. Feaster's hands were pretty much totally tied here, and it does seem as though Meehan/Iginla are most to blame. But Feaster made 2 crucial errors, which might have mitigated what is looking to be total clusterfudge:
1) not being forthright with Boston about Iggy having final say, nor about the latter's waffling on the deal that afternoon;
2) not allowing Chiarelli permission to speak directly with Iggy so as to make a full court press for Boston.

Regarding the latter, I'm surprised Feaster wouldn't give permission, based on his experience granting permission to Buffalo to convince Regehr in 2011.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Best part of the Iginla trade?

Huntingwhale changed his fat chick avatar.

Out of thanks, but ha! I knew someone was going to bring that up...

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Don't think this looks bad for the flames from an outside view

without knowing the full story seems bad on Meehan/Iginla, because it sounds like they may have used one accepted offer (and the details were out there so the Penguins knew what target they need to hit) to leverage another

Yup I agree completely. This looks bad on Meehan/Iginla, not Feaster. Feaster tried to get the best deal he could from Boston and he did. Having it nixed by Iginla (and the LA deal as well) forced him to get whatever he could from Pittsburgh or say forget it and have Iginla walk away in 16 games. Feaster botched the ROR scenario but this was on Meehan/Iginla IMO.