[Trade] Iginla to the Pens for Agostino, Hanowski, 2013 1st

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Bunch of reports during the chaos of last night. Initially the 1st was in there, then mid-way through the game it changed to a conditional 1st based on him re-signing.

Outrage ensued.

yeah thus i'm looking for the original source.... curious if it was legit or one of those heresay/made up rumours that go crazy thru the net.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Aaron ward...so it had to be correct....right?

Bob MacKenzie. Although he didn't say the deal was done (that was Ward), but he said that was the offer.

[silentsim]

It was NOT a conditional and this was confirmed by Chiarelli.

Koko+Bartkowski+1st

[devo22]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

They had a week to go until trade deadline. You don't think the Pitt deal would have still been on the table if they couldn't get more? Same goes with Boston?

Can't believe posters are sticking up for Feaster and ownership on these deals. They have no negotiating skills if that's the best they could muster up.

the team had no leverage at all. Plus if you wait and Pittsburgh makes a move for Clowe or someone else, that deal goes away ... good chance their 1st would have be gone.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

There were 3 teams going for him. Unless all of them had pulled of trades at the same time to go in a different direction, Feaster still had time.

So then the Flames take one of the other deals and people still complain, and here we are with people still saying why didn't they get more for Iggy?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

What does not getting the correct info on a trade have to do with evaluation on players?

Who, among these media guys you speak of, have even seen the players dealt to Calgary play?

How would they know one way or the other what Calgary is receiving?

How do they know that this wasnt the absolute best deal on the table?

Are they getting their information from the same "sources" that told them Iginla was a Bruin? If so, how can you believe a word they say?

They don't know...thats the point.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I don't doubt Iggy would have gone to Boston, I also don't doubt with a little extra pressure (specifically its either you or your direct rival the Pens) the conditional would have been taken off the pick.

I do. The choice would have been to either go to an absolutely stacked team that is already tearing up the conference or go to a team that looks shaky lately and would have to go through the above mentioned stacked team. Seems like an easy choice.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by valo403

They. Had. No. Leverage.

Can't believe people can't get that through their heads.

You keep saying that with out backing it up.

Tell me how they had no leverage, when 3 teams were going for Iggy? None of those teams new Iggy was going to pick Pitt.

[Dentoman]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

They had a week to go until trade deadline. You don't think the Pitt deal would have still been on the table if they couldn't get more? Same goes with Boston?

Can't believe posters are sticking up for Feaster and ownership on these deals. They have no negotiating skills if that's the best they could muster up.

Can't include Boston in the discussion .... Iginla wanted to go to Pittsburgh. Suddenly, Pitt holds the hammer. Take what you can get rather than losing Iginla for nothing.
Iginla held the power with his NMC/NTC. He dictated a lot of what was going on.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

yeah thus i'm looking for the original source.... curious if it was legit or one of those heresay/made up rumours that go crazy thru the net.

Chirelli and the Bruins have come out and said today that the offer was on the table. But the conditional part may have been bogus, the Bruins said they offered a 1st

[neo45]

Originally Posted by valo403

They. Had. No. Leverage.

Can't believe people can't get that through their heads.

They had tons of leverage over Boston, but still agreed to a mediocre package.

The leverage was that if the Bruins didn't pay up for Iggy, he would go to Pitt who is the best team in the east, and has beaten Boston 5 times in a row.

That right there is tons of leverage, Feaster just couldn't use it to drive up the prices.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Who, among these media guys you speak of, have even seen the players dealt to Calgary play?

How would they know one way or the other what Calgary is receiving?

How do they know that this wasnt the absolute best deal on the table?

Are they getting their information from the same "sources" that told them Iginla was a Bruin? If so, how can you believe a word they say?

They don't know...thats the point.

Sounds like Boston is confirming it?

Originally Posted by silentsim

It was NOT a conditional and this was confirmed by Chiarelli.

Koko+Bartkowski+1st

I'd like to see a link, if possible. (article/video/etc)

[drPepper1]

In the end it was Iginla's choice, atleast we got something instead of nothing. If I was Iginla i'd rather play with Crosby or Malkin also. Iginla finally gets his number 1 centre, just not with the Flames.

[ComixZone]

He just stated in the press conference it was not conditional. The "done deal" was Koko+Bartkowski+1st (firm).

Players choice, and he picked Pittsburgh.

Chiarelli isn't bitter or anything, says "these things happen" and adds how difficult all these NMC/NTC make trades.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by valo403

I do. The choice would have been to either go to an absolutely stacked team that is already tearing up the conference or go to a team that looks shaky lately and would have to go through the above mentioned stacked team. Seems like an easy choice.

I don't doubt the Pens were Iggies favorite, but if he told Feaster he would go to either (plus LA and Chi') and Feaster walks in and says 'you're off to Boston' I do not think Iggy suddenly changes his mind.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by neo45

They had tons of leverage over Boston, but still agreed to a mediocre package.

The leverage was that if the Bruins didn't pay up for Iggy, he would go to Pitt who is the best team in the east, and has beaten Boston 5 times in a row.

That right there is tons of leverage, Feaster just couldn't use it to drive up the prices.

What leverage? Temping them with Iggy when he decided to go to Pittsburgh?

Boston could have offered Bergeron, Chara, Seguin and their next 7 first round picks and the Flames couldn't have pulled the trigger unless Iggy waived his NMC to go there.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Who, among these media guys you speak of, have even seen the players dealt to Calgary play?

How would they know one way or the other what Calgary is receiving?

How do they know that this wasnt the absolute best deal on the table?

Are they getting their information from the same "sources" that told them Iginla was a Bruin? If so, how can you believe a word they say?

They don't know...thats the point.

You don't know any of that, that's just your assumption.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Dentoman

Can't include Boston in the discussion .... Iginla wanted to go to Pittsburgh. Suddenly, Pitt holds the hammer. Take what you can get rather than losing Iginla for nothing.
Iginla held the power with his NMC/NTC. He dictated a lot of what was going on.

Boston did not know that Iggy wanted to go to Pitt when they made the "deal" with the Flames, so everything that happened after doesn't really affect the fact that Feaster agreed to a terrible trade with the Bruins, and couldn't get the GM to even give up what Burke got him to give up for Kaberle.

So it is completely fair to judge Feaster based on what the Boston deal was going to be

[dammage79]

Still wonder if Cammy can get Koko out of Boston... I like the player.

[Vedder]

Chiarelli pulling a move from the book of Feaster with the "we almost got the big fish" press conference.