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Old 03-25-2013, 01:01 PM   #801
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One thing to remember people saying LA doesn't need wingers, they tried to sign parise this offseason as well.
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I believe that there is a bit of Flames fatique to Iginla right now, and I also think there could be some hidden resentment at the Flames not doing a great job of supporting him over the last few years in terms of getting him a top center to play with, and maybe half a$$ing their way to building a competitive team.

I would also think that maybe Iginla does not want to give a home town discount due to his standings in the players association who would want him to test the market and set value this summer.

Maybe he's using those pencils to stab fans behind the dome.
This was alluded to on the Fan960 this morning. Iginla basically said to management that he was not interested in re-signing in Calgary which has now forced the hand of management to try and get something for him.
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It'll gum up the works if he stays too, IMO. He was a shell of the player he was after he left the first time in his hissy fit, and owes his long term deal and stability on and off the ice completely to Iginla from clicking with him when he returned for Rd 2.

IF Iginla goes, Tanguay will slip even deeper down the depth list as far as confidence and attiude go, which for skilled guys, is as much a part of the receipe for success as soft hands and passing abilty is. Given the term and money he's left owing, that's going to be ugly.
One of the risks of building an Iginla and Friends roster. Or building around an ageing player with no transition looking forward plan.
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I believe that there is a bit of Flames fatique to Iginla right now, and I also think there could be some hidden resentment at the Flames not doing a great job of supporting him over the last few years in terms of getting him a top center to play with, and maybe half a$$ing their way to building a competitive team.
Tried for Brad Richards, tried for Ryan O'Reilly, and got Olli Jokinen, and Alex Tanguay twice, whom Iginla has said is one of the best people he ever played with.

... and that's just the people we know of. Probably could have done more, but I don't know if it was a lack of effort. Lack of competence/scouting/something else? Could be... but if he's sticking it to the organization for that reason, that'd be pretty bad.
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Tried for Brad Richards, tried for Ryan O'Reilly, and got Olli Jokinen, and Alex Tanguay twice, whom Iginla has said is one of the best people he ever played with.

... and that's just the people we know of. Probably could have done more, but I don't know if it was a lack of effort. Lack of competence/scouting/something else? Could be... but if he's sticking it to the organization for that reason, that'd be pretty bad.
We even brought Conroy back, Cammalleri back, and you could argue that Cervenka was somewhat considered a centre Iggy could potentially play with.
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@TicTacGoal: Interesting, @Real_ESPNLeBrun on @TSN1050Radio saying #Pens still all in on Iginla. Imagine that? #NHL #Tradecentre #Flames #Pens
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Tried for Brad Richards, tried for Ryan O'Reilly, and got Olli Jokinen, and Alex Tanguay twice, whom Iginla has said is one of the best people he ever played with.

... and that's just the people we know of. Probably could have done more, but I don't know if it was a lack of effort. Lack of competence/scouting/something else? Could be... but if he's sticking it to the organization for that reason, that'd be pretty bad.
Don't forget Savard a few years back as well. I feel the Flames tried very hard over the years to get Iginla his center. Sure they never found the right guy but that just goes to show why top centermen are so hard to find and how important it is to draft them. It's a shame there will be no Cinderella ending but that's life.
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@TicTacGoal: Interesting, @Real_ESPNLeBrun on @TSN1050Radio saying #Pens still all in on Iginla. Imagine that? #NHL #Tradecentre #Flames #Pens
Obviously not directed at you MissTeeks ... but seriously look at that crap, that's so painful to read. Sometimes twitter is so lame.
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You can certainly accuse the Flames management of incompetence if that's your bag but laziness or half-assedness? No way.
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I don't know man, with the PUCKS system, you can bring up every single shift the guy has had in a game - which would take about 25 minutes, multiple angles, etc. I believe the technology is there to even show angles where they would be out of the play.

I get that there are some subtle differences on TV broadcasts, but I think that he is right, the pro scout at a hockey game is probably going to be changing significantly over the next 10 years.
PUCKS is just an additional tool.

You won't be seeing scouts leaving the rink anytime soon IMO.
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Not at all surprised at Detroit not being on the list.

Don't think Iggy would re-sign in Detroit and while they were successful at the Olympics together I am not sure him and Babchuk get along the greatest.
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I could see Iggy re-signing in DET for a year. A full season with one of the best centers ever to play the game in Datsyuk? Why wouldn't he? He has NEVER had the opportunity to line up with the likes of Pavel, I bet that is a major selling point.
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I could see Iggy re-signing in DET for a year. A full season with one of the best centers ever to play the game in Datsyuk? Why wouldn't he? He has NEVER had the opportunity to line up with the likes of Pavel, I bet that is a major selling point.
Datsyuk aint gonna be in detroit next year.
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Datsyuk aint gonna be in detroit next year.
He's rumored to be going back to russia after NEXT season when his deal runs out..
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:38 PM   #817
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I could see Iggy re-signing in DET for a year. A full season with one of the best centers ever to play the game in Datsyuk? Why wouldn't he? He has NEVER had the opportunity to line up with the likes of Pavel, I bet that is a major selling point.
The problem with Detroit is twofold:

a. I'm not sure that they would think they're contenders this season at all. That defence is pretty suspect and I bet they know it.

b. They have less coming down the pipe than Calgary so trading futures is pretty iffy.
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The problem with Detroit is twofold:

a. I'm not sure that they would think they're contenders this season at all. That defence is pretty suspect and I bet they know it.

b. They have less coming down the pipe than Calgary so trading futures is pretty iffy.
Agree with both, but if you're selling DET to Iggy, Datsyuk for a year has a very solid ring to it.
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I would love to see Iggy hoist the Stanley Cup before he retires. Trade him to the Blackhawks...
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Discussion from hockey central about iggy.

http://nhlrumormill.com/video-detroi...flames-iginla/
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