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Inferno · 03-25-2013, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HELPNEEDED

I would not burn it, you could probably get 30-50 bucks on Kijiji

I'd get rid of it pretty fast that's for sure.

moon · 03-25-2013, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

A lot of folks saying this. I just don't see it. Why would Calgary want to minimize the impact of the trade by acquiring an unproven goaltender? At this point, John Gillies could easily be the starter in 3 years. Why do they need Bernier?

By that logic Bernier could easily be the best goalie in the league in 3 years.

He has shown a lot more than pretty much anyone who hasn't started 100+ games in the NHL already.

OILFAN #81 · 03-25-2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by orr444

Just a gut feeling?

Yeah, that was based on my personal opinion, not on any hearsay or anything or insider information.

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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

A lot of folks saying this. I just don't see it. Why would Calgary want to minimize the impact of the trade by acquiring an unproven goaltender? At this point, John Gillies could easily be the starter in 3 years. Why do they need Bernier?

I think Bernier is better then an unproven goaltender. He was highly thought of in his draft class (being a 1st rounder), and since being in the NHL he has put up more then respectable numbers. 27-19-0 with a 2.41 GAA and 0.912 save percentage. With LA losing key defenseman this year, he has looked better in net then Quick has. Bernier is only 24 years old and IMO he is the real deal. I think it would be a good deal for Calgary.

Tinordi · 03-25-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

A lot of folks saying this. I just don't see it. Why would Calgary want to minimize the impact of the trade by acquiring an unproven goaltender? At this point, John Gillies could easily be the starter in 3 years. Why do they need Bernier?

What makes Gillies any different than Irving, Keetley, Ortio that he could basically beat the odds and establish himself as a starting goalie at the age of 22? You realize that's a very rare occurrence in this league?

jschick88 · 03-25-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

Someone somewhere put, Bernier Toffoli and a 1st. If that's out there we should take it and run to the bank because I would be shocked LA would offer so much.

Even if its Bernier + Toffoli that's a pretty damn good deal IMO.

Ya I be shocked if LA would give up Bernier and Toffoli in a deal for Iggy. Flames would have to add to land both of them. Something maybe like Iggy and Gio. By adding Gio would fill a need for the Kings. Mitchell and Greene are still on the IR and not sure when they'll return.

Husky · 03-25-2013, 12:03 PM

Weird (no lies), was in the elvator at work and the tv in there said Iginla agreed to waive his NMC. I dont see this reported anywhere...

Flash Walken · 03-25-2013, 12:05 PM

Bernier and a 2nd is a deal I would do for Iginla.

Anything more than that I think is gravy.

LA is the most likely landing destination in my mind as well. Move penner down to the third line, have Iginla play with Carter and Richards.

Vinny01 · 03-25-2013, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Husky

Weird (no lies), was in the elvator at work and the tv in there said Iginla agreed to waive his NMC. I dont see this reported anywhere...

Probably saying he agreed for the 4 teams that was speculated yesterday. That list has basically been confirmed as true

PeteLFan · 03-25-2013, 12:06 PM

Sarich and Iginla for toffoli Bernier and a 1st?

djsFlames · 03-25-2013, 12:07 PM

If Iginla indeed does intend to not be just a rental and will sign with the team he is dealt to, then absolutely Feaster's price of two prospects and a 1st is justified here.

GoFlamesGo1989 · 03-25-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteLFan

Sarich and Iginla for toffoli Bernier and a 1st?

LA has no first rounder in 2013

MrMastodonFarm · 03-25-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Bernier and a 2nd is a deal I would do for Iginla.

Anything more than that I think is gravy.

LA is the most likely landing destination in my mind as well. Move penner down to the third line, have Iginla play with Carter and Richards.

Yeah, I think I'd be fine with that. Bernier for Iginla straight up isn't a huge interest to me. Bernier might be a starter but I think it's too big of a gamble, goalies are just too unpredictable. I thnk the way you find a starter is load up on 4-5 and let the cream rise to the top.

Vinny01 · 03-25-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteLFan

Sarich and Iginla for toffoli Bernier and a 1st?

I was thinking a deal along those lines works out well. If the Flames could squeeze Kyle Clifford and the pick be a 2nd that would be awesome. We could even send back a prospect like Nemisz or 4th liner as well.

Flash Walken · 03-25-2013, 12:08 PM

The one thing I think that could spoil LA as a destination is Iginla's desire to not be a rental and the prospect of having Iginla play in Calgary's division next year.

PeteLFan · 03-25-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GoFlamesGo1989

LA has no first rounder in 2013

Doesn't have to be this year, that just means they can add in another pick for this year. Heck we will give them Irving too lol.

Hatter · 03-25-2013, 12:11 PM

I hope Feaster takes a good long look at Linden Vey if he's talking to LA.

Erick Estrada · 03-25-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

I think it will come down to LA and Boston with LA getting Iginla. Bernier will be part of the package going to Calgary.

I'm down with that although I would hope the Flames get another propect or draft picks with something conditional if Iginla re-signs. I do believe that too many fans here are discounting Bernier as he will have more immediate impact on the Flames than any draft picks or prospects and removes goaltending as a question mark for this team moving on past Kipper.

Tinordi · 03-25-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Yeah, I think I'd be fine with that. Bernier for Iginla straight up isn't a huge interest to me. Bernier might be a starter but I think it's too big of a gamble, goalies are just too unpredictable. I thnk the way you find a starter is load up on 4-5 and let the cream rise to the top.

Is Bernier any riskier than any of the other prospects being thrown around in trade proposals? If anything Bernier is the surest thing from the list of prospects we'd likely be targeting.

Flash Walken · 03-25-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinordi

Is Bernier any riskier than any of the other prospects being thrown around in trade proposals? If anything Bernier is the surest thing from the list of prospects we'd likely be targeting.

And why the reported value isn't much more than a straight across deal for the two players.

I don't think Bernier is any worse than Corey Schneider. I don't know if he's any better, but I don't think he's a step down in anyway.

Clever_Iggy · 03-25-2013, 12:16 PM

I would rather go for a package that doesn't involve Bernier for no other reason than I don't think it's enough (another prospect and a pick, even in 2014 would increase my interest). If the Iginla et al for Bernier et al happens, Feaster has to have a move for Kiprusoff in place either concurrently or immediately thereafter. The last thing I want is a Vancouver situation (I realize they aren't perfect parallels). Give Kipper a shot somewhere else, make Bernier the #1 without question and turn the page.