[Rumour] Iginla Trade Talk: Iginla scratched from CGY Vs. COL

[devo22]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

Anyone think Boston would part with Dougie Hamilton straight up for Iggy?

I'd assume we'd have to throw in a 3th round pick or something as well?

Hamilton will not leave Boston, no way that happens.

[jschick88]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

Anyone think Boston would part with Dougie Hamilton straight up for Iggy?

I'd assume we'd have to throw in a 3th round pick or something as well?

Zero chance. Nothing against Iggy but instead of Boston getting stronger they would be getting worse if they traded Hamilton. Plays top 4 minutes right now and plays on the number one PP unit. No chance Boston gives him up.

[PeteLFan]

There is a few ways to look at this.

How is management going to sell Malcolm freaking subban to the fans as a return for Iginla ?

With young forwards and picks you can put them in right away.

You stand pat and do nothing. How do you then come back next season and say here you go, you get the same team again. This team has always had some type of excuse not to rebuild. This time it could be a shortened season and not enough time for Hartley to our in his system.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by flambers

Iginla could sign with the Canucks in a matter of months any how.

If the Flames are looking to trade him..... he should be moved to the team who will provide the best package.

If its the Canucks.... great take the package and run.

This. Absolutely this.

So much emotion and irrational rivalry based thinking. The objective is the Cup above all else.

[PeteLFan]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

This. Absolutely this.

So much emotion and irrational rivalry based thinking. The objective is the Cup above all else.

Vancouver's package isn't good enough or big enough to satisfy our needs. Just like there cup aspirations they will come up short.

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Cup or no cup I doubt that he would ever want to resign with the Flames at all. With the pressures that are coming I have no doubt that Iggy will feel a bit like he was chased out of town.

I mean when he goes into the Hall of Fame he'll probably wear a Flames jersey unless he wins a cup somewhere else. But I doubt that he would willingly return to this organization.

Once that bridge is burned I doubt that he'll be all that eager to supply the wood to rebuild it.

I disagree. Iggy seems very family oriented, I think a decision to not uproot his family from a city they've lived in for 17 years weighs heavily on his mind. In a perfect world he'll get traded, be away from his family for 2 months, win a cup, and re-sign a hometown discount contract, with no regrets.

[Alberta_Beef]

Bennett + Harrington + 1st from Pittsburgh
TT + Clendening +1st from Chicago
Spooner + Krug + 1st from Boston
Toffoli + Forbort + 1st from Los Angeles

and because they have been mentioned from other sources:

Nyquist + Ouellet + 1st from Detroit
Schroeder + Connauton + 1st from Vancouver (they may need to add a 2nd because they are Vancouver)

and in each case I think there is a possibility of a roster player/salary dump coming to Calgary as well.

[Phanuthier]

Late to the thread, gave myself a day to digest this. Some of the twitters like "a player has come on the market that we would have never thought would be avail" is really sad to see. The first Flames game I ever watched, the day I became a Flames fan, was in Iginla's rookie season - it was a 7-2 win against Pheonix, he was on a line with Dave Gagner and Jonas Hoglund. Rick Tabaracci was in net. Crazy to think ever since I started watching hockey, Iginla has been a Flame. Truely sad, couldn't have asked for a greater ambassador for the Flames.

But, the Flames need to rebuild, so here we are. Iginla, even though he is 35 and declining, still has a elite shot and game breaking ability. If you are in game 7, going into the 3rd period, are you going to wish you had Crosby-Iginla or Crosby-Dupuis? Etc for the other teams.

So I'm asking for the moon.

Boston? Doug Hamilton. We'll throw in a prospect if you need to.
LA? Bernier, Toffolli.
Pittsburg? Too bad you guys delt Morrow. Harrington, Despres and a 1st.
Chicago? Teravainen, Saad, 1st.

Is that a lot? Yes. Thats the starting price. We'll take back a bad contract if you need. Look what Brendan Morrow got... Iginla is gonna bring back a lot.

[Howie_16]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

The bolded part is stupid. I could just as easily say your views disgust me.

Then go ahead and say it. It won't change how I feel.

[Coys1882]

It's going to go down like this.

Iggy gets traded to the Hawks
Flames fight for the 8th seed
Flames dump the Hawks out in the first round.

[CedarMeter]

I missed the segment on the fan 960 this morning on the asking price for Iginla..Did anyone hear it?..Im curious to know what it is.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I just don't see any value in bringing in a goalie using our higher end tadeing chips.

Even if Ramo doesn't come over next year, who cares, sign a journey man goalie as our starter and really plunge to the bottom with a purpose.

We have several goalies in the pipeline, hell we can even give Irving a 1 year contract and really stink with him and Taylor.

But Bernier as a primary piece in a trade is a waste unless the prospect is something special.

the Flames need to address specific needs, and that's a young skilled center with size, more physical toughness and depending on which blueliner stays a good 2 way pointman.

Goalie should be at the bottom of the list.

Totally disagree with this.

I would argue that you always need good goaltending, rebuild or not. Bad goaltending can hurt the development of your young players. They need to have a feeling that they can win every night, they need confidence in the goaltender. Looking at our organization we have a serious lack of depth in that position right now.

Brossoit and Gillies are at least 5 years away if they even make the show at all.

[PeteLFan]

Originally Posted by CedarMeter

I missed the segment on the fan 960 this morning on the asking price for Iginla..Did anyone hear it?..Im curious to know what it is.

I don't know what they said, but it seems like we want a top prospect 1st round pick and another prospect or roster player.

[PeteLFan]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Totally disagree with this.

I would argue that you always need good goaltending, rebuild or not. Bad goaltending can hurt the development of your young players. They need to have a feeling that they can win every night, they need confidence in the goaltender. Looking at our organization we have a serious lack of depth in that position right now.

Brossoit and Gillies are at least 5 years away if they even make the show at all.

Malcolm subban is even further away, even of he makes the show at all.

[drPepper1]

Originally Posted by devo22

Hamilton will not leave Boston, no way that happens.

If we cannot pry Hamilton, what about Spooner, Khokhlachev and a first. Boston has Bergeron/Krejici for a while

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by PeteLFan

Malcolm subban is even further away, even of he makes the show at all.

I was talking about a trade for Bernier. But I wouldn't be against Subban, always need goaltending depth and prospects and if Subban is the best prospect on the table for an Iginla trade I think you'd be obliged to take it. BPA mentality reigns, in reality we're so many pieces away in all positions that we can't afford to be choosy.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by drPepper1

If we cannot pry Hamilton, what about Spooner, Khokhlachev and a first. Boston has Bergeron/Krejici for a while

I would be happy with that return.

[PeteLFan]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

I was talking about a trade for Bernier. But I wouldn't be against Subban, always need goaltending depth and prospects and if Subban is the best prospect on the table for an Iginla trade I think you'd be obliged to take it. BPA mentality reigns, in reality we're so many pieces away in all positions that we can't afford to be choosy.

Bernier is a different story.

We can most definitely be choosy, we are the one reading away the guy they want. We don't need a goalie prospect we have some, and we can draft 5 more this year. 1st round picks on goalies are a waste, and trading away your biggest asset for one that's just a prospect is even bigger waste.

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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Bennett + Harrington + 1st from Pittsburgh
TT + Clendening +1st from Chicago
Spooner + Krug + 1st from Boston
Toffoli + Forbort + 1st from Los Angeles

and because they have been mentioned from other sources:

Nyquist + Ouellet + 1st from Detroit
Schroeder + Connauton + 1st from Vancouver (they may need to add a 2nd because they are Vancouver)

and in each case I think there is a possibility of a roster player/salary dump coming to Calgary as well.

In order of preference of those deals from my perspective...

LA
Boston
Vancouver
Detroit
Chicago
Pittsburgh

I think we need to get a potential #1C back in the deal. It's been this team's achiles heel for too long to not address it now that there's another opportunity to.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by drPepper1

If we cannot pry Hamilton, what about Spooner, Khokhlachev and a first. Boston has Bergeron/Krejici for a while

Originally Posted by Makarov

I would be happy with that return.

This would be my guess from Boston.

They offered Khokhlachev and a 2nd for Morrow (apparently). Bump it to a 1st and include Spooner for Iginla.

I doubt the offers get much better than that.

My concern with it is that both players are small

Edit: would rprefer Krug over Khok, I think