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Cleveland Steam Whistle · 03-24-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

nothing is wrong with money.

however the all the hand holding and kumbaya'ing missed that point. This is Iggy's job. A job that has made him probably a 100 million dollars.

Do not mistake "loyalty" for employment...Guy is from Edmonton, so Calgary is the perfect fit for him to be close to family, but not too close.

Wow, you sure do know a lot about Iggy, like what equates to the "perfect distance" for him to be to his family. How did you get such personal insight on something like that, just shooting the #### over beers?

Dion · 03-24-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

Sakic also played with one of the top 3 goalies of all time, a couple Hall of Fame defenders, Forsberg and a young Tangs and Hejduk, among the other really good players.

Also, this isn't a knock on Iggy, but Sakic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iggy any day of the week, even in Iggy's prime.

Just saying. Not really a comparable contrast.

We have a hall of famer in Kiprusoff and some good young d men in Brodie and Jordano. Where we lack is in the offence with Baerstchi being the first young player in awhile to have a chance at being an impact player on the team. Imagine if we had a few young forwards making an impact now. We don't and have to rely on Iginla for leadership and points. Maybe not the best comparable but at least the Avs had something

Mr.Coffee · 03-24-2013, 10:33 PM

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Flames and Iginla sat down and worked out a plan together that was along the lines of...

Hey, we'll re-sign you in summer for this, but we can trade you for quite a bit now to a contender, we'll get a brighter future with some picks and prospects, and you can come right back for a contract along the lines of this in the summer and next season, whaddya say?

Done.

That'd be kind of sweet if it was the gameplan.

Jbo · 03-24-2013, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Flames and Iginla sat down and worked out a plan together that was along the lines of...

Hey, we'll re-sign you in summer for this, but we can trade you for quite a bit now to a contender, we'll get a brighter future with some picks and prospects, and you can come right back for a contract along the lines of this in the summer and next season, whaddya say?

Done.

That'd be kind of sweet if it was the gameplan.

I just feel that teams already can sense this, and would offer a conditional 1st on him re-signing.

minnow · 03-24-2013, 10:35 PM

Wow, don't like the interpretation of Iggy's comment, he didn't say "no, I didn't submit a list". Iggy skirted it.

Roof-Daddy · 03-24-2013, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Flames and Iginla sat down and worked out a plan together that was along the lines of...

Hey, we'll re-sign you in summer for this, but we can trade you for quite a bit now to a contender, we'll get a brighter future with some picks and prospects, and you can come right back for a contract along the lines of this in the summer and next season, whaddya say?

Done.

That'd be kind of sweet if it was the gameplan.

Deep down this is kinda what I'm hoping for as well.

Mr.Coffee · 03-24-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by J-bo09

I just feel that teams already can sense this, and would offer a conditional 1st on him re-signing.

ah good call, didn't think about that.

kyuss275 · 03-24-2013, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Flames and Iginla sat down and worked out a plan together that was along the lines of...

Hey, we'll re-sign you in summer for this, but we can trade you for quite a bit now to a contender, we'll get a brighter future with some picks and prospects, and you can come right back for a contract along the lines of this in the summer and next season, whaddya say?

Done.

That'd be kind of sweet if it was the gameplan.

Under NHL rules they can not do that. No way to prove it however. I just can't see Iggy who oozes class and integrity, going for a shady back door deal.

MisterJoji · 03-24-2013, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Ok, so we have 4 teams left in the running. With Joe Morrow moved today, one of the key pieces I was looking for in return is now gone.

But now knowing what the Flames are looking for (2 prospects and a draft pick) and seeing what Brenden Morrow was worth on today's market, here's what I ask for if I'm Jay Feaster.

LA - Johnathan Bernier (G), Tyler Toffoli (RW) and 2014 1st round pick
PIT - Derek Pouliot (D), Beau Bennett (RW) and 2013 1st round pick
CHI - Teuvo Teravainen (C), Brandon Saad (C) and 2013 2nd round pick
BOS - Seth Griffith (RW), Alexander Khokhlachev (C) and 2013 1st round pick

I've bolded my preference.

Saad has been playing on the top line lately, no way we get him + Tervainen + pick. I still might take Tuevo and a first though.

PeteLFan · 03-24-2013, 10:40 PM

You better watch out
You better not cry
Better not pout
I'm telling you why
Jarome Iginla is coming to town
He's making a list
And checking it twice;
Jarome Iginla is coming to town.

Who's it going to be.

Vedder · 03-24-2013, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by J-bo09

I just feel that teams already can sense this, and would offer a conditional 1st on him re-signing.

The 1st can't be conditional. What if they trade him to Boston and he decides to sign in Pittsburgh in the offseason? Too much risk for the Flames. If trading partner wants to keep him beyond this season, then it'd have to be a sign and trade. He is worth a 1st as a rental.

dammage79 · 03-24-2013, 10:42 PM

Makes sense if it's two top tier prospects and a pick that the pick if it was a first would be conditional. Either on getting to a cup final or dependent on him re-signing with the acquiring team.

nik- · 03-24-2013, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kyuss275

Under NHL rules they can not do that. No way to prove it however. I just can't see Iggy who oozes class and integrity, going for a shady back door deal.

They can negotiate whatever they want with Iginla right now, it's just not enforceable if he changes his mind after he leaves.

oldschoolcalgary · 03-24-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Wow, you sure do know a lot about Iggy, like what equates to the "perfect distance" for him to be to his family. How did you get such personal insight on something like that, just shooting the #### over beers?

funny, i was thinking the exact same thing about people that constantly extoll about things like loyalty!

I guess that's the thing isn't it?

I have as much chance of being right with respect to his motivations as you do...even if your patronizing tone suggests somehow you know more over your beers and shooting the #### right?

Great story bro.

Mr.Coffee · 03-24-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kyuss275

Under NHL rules they can not do that. No way to prove it however. I just can't see Iggy who oozes class and integrity, going for a shady back door deal.

What rule is that?

Why is that shady? It's all part of the business?

kyuss275 · 03-24-2013, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nik-

They can negotiate whatever they want with Iginla right now, it's just not enforceable if he changes his mind after he leaves.

I could be wrong, but wasn't there an investigation by the NHL when Keith Tkachuk left St.Louis for 20 games and then came back in the summer?

Jbo · 03-24-2013, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vedder

The 1st can't be conditional. What if they trade him to Boston and he decides to sign in Pittsburgh in the offseason? Too much risk for the Flames. If trading partner wants to keep him beyond this season, then it'd have to be a sign and trade. He is worth a 1st as a rental.

Risk on both trading team sides for sure.

Not sure why they wouldn't offer it though. Conditional first on him working out an extension would be a good way to try and get him locked down and lower the risk for the receiving team.

Not saying I want it for the Flames, but if I'm the trading partner, I can't make it easy.

The one issue with all this is that our hand has been flashed. Teams know he has a NTC and controls his destiny. They know the list is small (Speculative) and they know we are in a position where we really need/should move him.

I just hope that our GM handles this one diligently.

nik- · 03-24-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kyuss275

I could be wrong, but wasn't there an investigation by the NHL when Keith Tkachuk left St.Louis for 20 games and then came back in the summer?

There is nothing to investigate, the Flames own his rights and are free to negotiate with him. The team that trades for him is aware of his contract status. It would have been the same with Tkachuk.

Mr.Coffee · 03-24-2013, 10:50 PM

What if nothing is worked on beforehand and the best team for Iginla to re-sign with (most money offered) is Calgary in the offseason?

It doesn't have to be sketchy. I'm not even sure it is sketchy to arrange it before the fact... still trying to think about that. That's all part of the risk of the business. If you want to prevent that, lock him down yourself when the trade goes down?

djsFlames · 03-24-2013, 10:52 PM

Despite Sakic having a couple 100+ point seasons under his career belt and the edge in ppg average, I actually think Iggy in his prime was as good as Sakic.

They're very comparable in what they have been for their franchises and their leadership qualities. Keep in mind not too far down the road Iggy will be up in the HOF by Sakic's side, and rightfully so.