[Trade] B. Morrow + 3rd to the Pens, J. Morrow + 5th to Dallas - Page 13 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Flash Walken · 03-24-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Trades that define GM's are ones that are gamechangers that everyone is not expecting. Its common knowledge a guy in Iggy's situation is to get traded this year. The return might be amazing or crappy but no way will it define a GM. Yes Iggy is the face of the franchise from previous years but his status right now is a rental player.

He'll always be associated with this, just like Coates with nieuwy and iginla.

Calgary4LIfe · 03-24-2013, 04:21 PM

Well, I was disappointed when the final trade was announced. There definitely seemed to be 'more' to this trade, and it was a 3rd and a 5th to it.

I was hoping for a 1st from Dallas was going to Pittsburgh, and that Pittsburgh would be flipping Calgary 2 firsts + something for Iginla.

mattyk19 · 03-24-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jing

So the Pitts still has their 1st rounder in play, Iggy is still a possibility to go to Pitts I would think.

Man, I really hope so. But I just can't see both those names going to the same team. Kind of ruins the big splash for both players doesn't it?

PeteLFan · 03-24-2013, 04:24 PM

Not a chance Pittsburgh guts the prospect base and more picks to get Jarome. They made the move for a 3rd liner a steep price. They need these young cheap players going forward because of how top heavy they are.

MikeN · 03-24-2013, 04:24 PM

Man why do some of you feel Iggy is still worth a fist or even two firsts?

moon · 03-24-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteLFan

Not a chance Pittsburgh guts the prospect base and more picks to get Jarome. They made the move for a 3rd liner a steep price. They need these young cheap players going forward because of how top heavy they are.

3rd liner?

They are playing Matt Cooke and Pascal Dupuis in their top 6 Morrow Is a nice upgrade and will fit perfectly into that team.

PeteLFan · 03-24-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeN

Man why do some of you feel Iggy is still worth a fist or even two firsts?

Because he is. Not two first but he is worth a 1st as a starting point of any deal.

Captain_Obvious · 03-24-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeN

Man why do some of you feel Iggy is still worth a fist or even two firsts?

As it pertains to Pitts and Boston, their 1st is essentially almost a 2nd.

So that should be a good start for you as to the thought process around here...

genetic_phreek · 03-24-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

He'll always be associated with this, just like Coates with nieuwy and iginla.

Nieuwendyk was in contract limbo and was holding out at that time. It's a totally different scenario. Plus Nieuwendyk was a lot younger, he was like 27-28 years old so he still had a lot of serviceable years.

moon · 03-24-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeN

Man why do some of you feel Iggy is still worth a fist or even two firsts?

Because this deal clearly shows his is.

FlamesAddiction · 03-24-2013, 04:33 PM

It stands to reason that this was the offer made for Iginla and Feaster didn't like it. He must think there are better offers on the table, but whatever we get will be measured against this one.

Personally, I don't see Joe Morrow as a very exciting prospect.

goflamesgo18 · 03-24-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeN

Man why do some of you feel Iggy is still worth a fist or even two firsts?

Hahaha you are kidding right?

Look at what a 36 year old Keith Tkachuk got in return

genetic_phreek · 03-24-2013, 04:39 PM

Iggy to Boston for 1st rd, Alex Khokhlachev, and Tommy Cross. Come on Feaster, make it happen.

North East Goon · 03-24-2013, 04:43 PM

We must be asking for the moon; this may work; but most likely will fail!!!

Captain_Obvious · 03-24-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by North East Goon

We must be asking for the moon; this may work; but most likely will fail!!!

You sure? according to you he was going to Vancouver or Edmonton and we are all naive for not listening to you.

Oling_Roachinen · 03-24-2013, 04:55 PM

Trades like this and the Gaustad trade last year do show that GM's do put a heavy emphasis on the present. If they think a player helps their chances of winning a Cup in the near future or just staying a bit more competitive, they're going to jump on it. Sometimes it pays off, usually it doesn't.

And yet it's always seems to be such a surprise when a team gives up something "significant" for a third liner or depth defenseman. Maybe it's not always in the best interest for the club's future and in hindsight it's easy to judge them as bad trades. However, a general manager's time is far from indefinite and that player who contributes now as opposed to a prospect who's several years away or a pick that even if they work out usually don't make an impact for 5 years don't do them any good if they've been canned.

So I always get a kick out of the trade proposals that have a bonafide 2nd line player in his late 20's and certain fans saying he's not worth the 10th best prospect they have.

With that said, I like this trade from both sides. Morrow's a steep price to pay for Morrow but Morrow adds grit to a team looking to come out of the East. Morrow's the type of player that's willing to pay the price and wear out the other teams in what the Penguins should be expecting to be a long playoff run. While Morrow is a good prospect to have making his way through the system and the Stars should be having high hopes for the kid. Also, Morrow.

sun · 03-24-2013, 04:56 PM

Nice trade by Dallas. Definitely sets the price for Iggy, but I would have liked to see him playing with Crosby. Fleury will probably collapse in the playoffs anyways, so Boston is probably the better chance for Iggy. Don't want him to go to LAK, because aren't they in our division next season (assuming he re-signs there)?

Jackpot_Smooth · 03-24-2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeN

Man why do some of you feel Iggy is still worth a fist or even two firsts?

Paul Gaustad got buffalo a first round pick. I kind of rank iginla a little higher than him.

Oling_Roachinen · 03-24-2013, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

It stands to reason that this was the offer made for Iginla and Feaster didn't like it.

How is that "reason?"

If you don't want to pay 40 bucks for a nice steak dinner because your budget is only 30 dollars, you're not going to be offering 30 bucks for a hamburger.

kehatch · 03-24-2013, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

How is that "reason?"

If you don't want to pay 40 bucks for a nice steak dinner because your budget is only 30 dollars, you're not going to be offering 30 bucks for a hamburger.

Huh? It is very reasonable to think Pittsburgh offered a package involving Morrow for Iginla but found out the price was too high so made the offer for Morrow. You would have to think they knocked on the door to determine price.