[Rumour] Iginla Trade Talk: Iginla scratched from CGY Vs. COL

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by Otto29

I don't agree with that. The Flames aren't going to blow it up if they trade Iggy. They will add a few players but they wouldn't trade everyone

The return we get in an Iggy trade will not help this team get to the playoffs next year, if we retain all of our current roster. So now is the perfect opportunity to try and re-tool. In no way should be approach the Oilers and try the scorched earth method, but this team needs a change in culture. We will likely have a top 10, possibly top 5 pick in a deep draft. I would have no problem trying to acquire additional prospects/picks for Cammy or Tanguay (whoever gets a better return), Gio or JBo, Stempniak (perfect sell high rental player). Hold on to Wideman, Hudler, and the obvious choices like Brodie, Backlund, Sven etc. if we sell off EVERYONE we will become the Oilers. Keep some veteran presence around, and acquire additional propsects with those who are traded. We probably won't make the playoffs next year anyways, so in a sense we could possibly have 2 top 5 picks, a few additional 2-3rd round picks, and a few mid-level prospects. In addition to Gaudreau, Wotherspoon, Ramo/Brossoit, possibly Jankowski (but he'll probably need a little longer). Potentially, leaving us with a decent young core, with a nice veteran presence and we wouldn't have had to be bottom feeders for 3+ years. Buuuuut is Feaster the guy to get this job done? I sure hope so.

[Vinny01]

It sucks the Flames are in the spot they are in. In 2010/2011 they could have had Schenn, Simmonds and likely a 1st. They could also be in a good spot to bring Iggy back this summer. At the end of the day it appears a trade is inevitable and the flames are going to get something for Iggy

I am happy Jarome provided a 4 team list because it gives the flames options and I think all 4 teams want him. I think a trade is coming in a week but Feaster needs to ensure that he maximizes the value.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by transplant99

So now 40 or 50 people is "a lot"?

Alrighty then.

The average fanon the street IMO never wanted to see this happen...ever. With good reason too.

The fact it has to happen at this point though, is still nothing to celebrate and i find it very confusing to suggest otherwise. The team will NOT be better without him. Hopefully, and its only hope at this point, Feaster doesnt completely screw things up on the return..something im not holding my breath on after his recent spate of incompetance.

There is nothing anywhere in this scenario to "celebrate" for anyone involved.

Successful teams don't operate on the basis of what the average fan in the street thinks. Successful teams operate with one eye on the 3-6 year horizon - something most fans are completely oblivious to. Look at Boston - they moved out a 40 goal scorer just entering his prime for a couple first-round picks. One eye to the future.

The Flames would be much better off today if the people running the team hadn't abrogated their responsibility to build for the future, and had been realistic to recognized that the window for this team winning the Cup ended 3-4 years ago. It's not hindsight to say Iginla should have been traded two years ago. It was the logical thing to do for anyone looking at the roster with cool detachment.

Feaster hasn't screwed anything up - he was handed a team with the worst age/talent/cap profile in the entire NHL, and then was told to keep it in the playoffs. Why do you think the first questions most journalists asked him when he got the job was whether he was going to rebuild the roster? It doesn't matter who was managing the team, we simply did not have the assets to build a contender in the rapidly closing window of Iginla and Kipper still being elite players.

The situation this franchise is in today was entirely predictable - and was predicted by all sorts of NHL watchers from outside of Calgary. That's why we're a laughing stock around the league today. For the last three seasons we've been that guy with too-tight suit, sports car, and fake tan who thinks he can still pull the ladies like he did back when he was 26.

[jg13]

I legitimately believe iginla will be shipped out east in the next 7 days. Then it will likely be a firesale. Kiprusoff + stempniak + gio could all go on April 3rd. Feaster needs to get the ball rolling now though. Not on April 3rd

[Roof-Daddy]

We should get a poll going:

Q - What will happen with Iginla?

- Traded to Boston
- Traded to Pittsburgh
- Traded to Chicago
- Traded to Los Angeles
- Traded to a "surprise" team
- Resigned
- Not traded, walks as a UFA

[puckluck2]

I hope it's Pittsburgh.

I like Pittsburgh.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by transplant99

So now 40 or 50 people is "a lot"?

Alrighty then.

The average fanon the street IMO never wanted to see this happen...ever. With good reason too.

The fact it has to happen at this point though, is still nothing to celebrate and i find it very confusing to suggest otherwise. The team will NOT be better without him. Hopefully, and its only hope at this point, Feaster doesnt completely screw things up on the return..something im not holding my breath on after his recent spate of incompetance.

There is nothing anywhere in this scenario to "celebrate" for anyone involved.

You make it sound like the 50 or so people at CP are some sort of anomaly because they are of the hardcore variety. Well I have new for you in that a lot of season ticket holders and casual fans aren't exactly tearing up over this. A lot of those Calgary Sun end of season polls have shown his popularity on the decline amongst fans and while nobody here can quantify the split between fans that want him to remain and fans that are fine with him leaving make no mistake a lot of fans are ready to move on. The Flames will exist post Iginla and eventually better times will come to this franchise.

[Dorkmaster]

I hope its Pitsburgh. He gets to play with a star center and the numerous number of defensive prospects that Pitsburgh has are all really good prospects. Plus they have a first and are out in the east. My second choice would be the Kings just because of the possibility of returning Bernier. Third choice would be Chicago because they have the highest chance of winning the cup. Don't think Boston will win the cup nor I'm I that intrigued by their prospects.

[kehatch]

Originally Posted by jg13

I legitimately believe iginla will be shipped out east in the next 7 days. Then it will likely be a firesale. Kiprusoff + stempniak + gio could all go on April 3rd. Feaster needs to get the ball rolling now though. Not on April 3rd

I seriously doubt there will be a fire sale. Iggy will probably be traded. Perhaps one or two others (Cervenka, Comeau).

Feaster (or his replacement) will probably trade Cammalleri and Kipper this summer or at next years deadline. Perhaps Bouwmeester if they can't get him to sign an extension (which is likely IMO).

I am sure they will trade some of the excess players like Babchuk or Sarich if they can find a taker.

But that's it. Unless it is a roster player for roster player type of move. This team won't go the scorched earth path. Can't say I blame them. There are some good pieces to work with. Better then starting from scratch by building a team that can't win.

On another note: Tonight might be the last time Iginla will play in a Flames uniform. Crazy stuff.

[EddyBeers]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

You make it sound like the 50 or so people at CP are some sort of anomaly because they are of the hardcore variety. Well I have new for you in that a lot of season ticket holders and casual fans aren't exactly tearing up over this. A lot of those Calgary Sun end of season polls have shown his popularity on the decline amongst fans and while nobody here can quantify the split between fans that want him to remain and fans that are fine with him leaving make no mistake a lot of fans are ready to move on.

The majority of STH's I know I know is excited, I am going to the game tonight and I am sure that I will be drinking a few celebratory beers with at least 2 STH's that have had their tickets since 1983 and have been begging the Flames to do a rebuild so there is a credible product on the ice.

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by kehatch

I seriously doubt there will be a fire sale. Iggy will probably be traded. Perhaps one or two others (Cervenka, Comeau).

Feaster (or his replacement) will probably trade Cammalleri and Kipper this summer or at next years deadline. Perhaps Bouwmeester if they can't get him to sign an extension (which is likely IMO).

I am sure they will trade some of the excess players like Babchuk or Sarich if they can find a taker.

But that's it. Unless it is a roster player for roster player type of move. This team won't go the scorched earth path. Can't say I blame them. There are some good pieces to work with. Better then starting from scratch by building a team that can't win.

On another note: Tonight might be the last time Iginla will play in a Flames uniform. Crazy stuff.

Iginla, Cervenka, Comeau, Cammalleri, Kipper, Bouwmeester, Babchuk, and Sarich. How is that not a fire sale?

[Husky]

Coming to an end of a Flames era. Either way, its time to move on!

[Cali Panthers Fan]

I can't see there not being a "fire sale". They are really really bad and need some high end prospects to build with. There are plenty of bottom of the roster players in our prospect pool, but not a lot of top 6 forwards or top 2 defensemen.

If Iginla is traded I think JBo, Kipper, one of Tanguay or Cammalleri (if not both), and possibly a supporting player like Glencross or Stempniak are all moved as well. Assuming of course they can find buyers for all those players, but I think there's enough talent in that group to find interested parties.

[Erick Estrada]

Back on topic if the Flames do infact unload Iginla they may as well commense with moving Kipper and Bouwmeester as well as I really don't see the value in bringing back Bouwmeester for one more season given he's probably the player that can garner the best return seeing there is supposedly heavy interest. As for Kipper I feel much like Iginla he's earned the chance to play on a competitive team and rolling him out on a bottom feeder seems kind of a sad way for him to retire getting torched nightly.

[kehatch]

Originally Posted by $ven27

Iginla, Cervenka, Comeau, Cammalleri, Kipper, Bouwmeester, Babchuk, and Sarich. How is that not a fire sale?

8 players over two years, all of them pending free agents at the time they are traded, three of them consistent healthy scratches. That isn't a fire sale to me. Chances are not all of them are moved as well. They are just the types of players the Flames are probably going to move.

Some people think the Flames are going to start trading Giordano, Glencross, and everyone over the age of 28. It isn't going to happen IMO.

Kipper, Bouwmeester, and Iginla being moved is radical change (if it happens). I think there will be big change. I just don't think they are going to gut the roster.

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by kehatch

8 players over two years, all of them pending free agents at the time they are traded, three of them consistent healthy scratches. That isn't a fire sale to me. Chances are not all of them are moved as well. They are just the types of players the Flames are probably going to move.

Some people think the Flames are going to start trading Giordano, Glencross, and everyone over the age of 28. It isn't going to happen IMO.

Kipper, Bouwmeester, and Iginla being moved is radical change (if it happens). I think there will be big change. I just don't think they are going to gut the roster.

I can't think of the last team that actually gutted their entire team, trading Kipper, Bouwmeester and Iggy alone is a fire sale IMO.

[Badgers Nose]

Perhaps Jay can squeeze a conditional second round draft pick from one of the teams. That would make any of the scenarios that were listed previously in this thread pretty awesome. I hope that Jarome isn't playing tonight I would hate to see him injured and then have this whole thing scrapped at the last minute.

St. Louis plays a punishing style and it's not outside the realm of possibility to think that they could injure him.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Back on topic if the Flames do infact unload Iginla they may as well commense with moving Kipper and Bouwmeester as well as I really don't see the value in bringing back Bouwmeester for one more season given he's probably the player that can garner the best return seeing there is supposedly heavy interest. As for Kipper I feel much like Iginla he's earned the chance to play on a competitive team and rolling him out on a bottom feeder seems kind of a sad way for him to retire getting torched nightly.

We can't become the Oilers.. trade 2 of the 3, not all 3. Then trade other pieces like Giordano and Tanguay.

[gonzo29]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

Four of 29 potential suitors seems like it drives the potential return down. Anyway, I'm almost certain he doesn't get dealt.

I don't think it would have too much of a negative impact on the return. These are four of the leading contenders in the league and the difference between having Iginla versus your main competition having Iginla is rather large, so they should be bidding against each other fairly aggressively.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by EddyBeers

The majority of STH's I know I know is excited, I am going to the game tonight and I am sure that I will be drinking a few celebratory beers with at least 2 STH's that have had their tickets since 1983 and have been begging the Flames to do a rebuild so there is a credible product on the ice.

I guess we won't be getting any updates on the paper bag tonight.