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ClubFlames · 03-22-2013, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Which of the top 5 would be ready to step into the NHL next year?

Calm down.. not saying this is how we should draft, I am just curious.

Drouin is NHL ready because of his poise and skill. Barkov is NHL ready as he has been playing with men in the Finnish league.

North East Goon · 03-22-2013, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Again you are blaming the past failures on the current regime.

What specifically do you object to about recent drafts.

I cant comment on the recent drafts as none have any NHL experience. Button is still the twit running things, so I have to assume not much has changed at all.

ClubFlames · 03-22-2013, 08:54 AM

Drouin continued his torrid pace despite MacKinnon being injured. There aren't many players who would compare to Joe Sakic but in my opinion Drouin comes close to his style.

Slick Oilers Troll · 03-22-2013, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ClubFlames

Drouin continued his torrid pace despite MacKinnon being injured. There aren't many players who would compare to Joe Sakic but in my opinion Drouin comes close to his style.

Not even close... Drouin is the next schremp.

If you're picking 1st it has to be Mac or Barkov... Do you wan't stajan as your #1 C?

Muffins · 03-22-2013, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick Oilers Troll

Not even close... Drouin is the next schremp.

If you're picking 1st it has to be Mac or Barkov... Do you wan't stajan as your #1 C?

The real Schremp or the 600 goals 1300 points Schremp?

Slick Oilers Troll · 03-22-2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Muffins

The real Schremp or the 600 goals 1300 points Schremp?

Ya dat schremp. He's all flash.... He will get destroyed in the big league.

bubbsy · 03-22-2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by North East Goon

With the Flames track record as it has been, stick with the consensus top pick not there internal BS.

really?

I openly bash the current regime as much as the next guy, but one spot i am not unhappy or skeptical about is the way they are drafting. Obviously, no clear cut home runs, which is the case for 95% of the guys that are drafted each year, but i remain optimistic that guys drafted like baertchi, gaudreau, gilles, jankowski, wotherspoon do have a shot of being part of turning this thing around in the next 3 seasons.

bubbsy · 03-22-2013, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by North East Goon

I cant comment on the recent drafts as none have any NHL experience. Button is still the twit running things, so I have to assume not much has changed at all.

again, i think we need to be optimistic here. it is very unclear on how the drafts were run in the D. Sutter regime. Button has remained constant, but with a shift in the GM and his personnel, we see a very different shift in drafting strategy.

AltaGuy · 03-22-2013, 09:10 AM

If we are indeed blowing it up and getting picks and prospects, I think it's important for Feaster and Co to also address the need for a lot of size (especially at forward) to compliment/protect the younger players.

It's been one of the biggest downfalls of the Oilers.

you got PHANUEFED · 03-22-2013, 09:18 AM

I'd be screaming tank the season but the team is already doing that on there own.

If McKinnon can add 20 lbs to that 6 foot frame then I'd say hes the guy but Barkov is at 6'2 already over 200lbs is also a great pick Monahan is in my top 3.If the Flames can make some moves and collect some 1st rounders and package them up for an other top 6 pick wouldnt be a bad idea either.

Vulcan · 03-22-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AltaGuy

If we are indeed blowing it up and getting picks and prospects, I think it's important for Feaster and Co to also address the need for a lot of size (especially at forward) to compliment/protect the younger players.

It's been one of the biggest downfalls of the Oilers.

If we deal with LA, I'd like Nolan as a throw in. Than hire his dad.

FlamesAddiction · 03-22-2013, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick Oilers Troll

Not even close... Drouin is the next schremp.

If you're picking 1st it has to be Mac or Barkov... Do you wan't stajan as your #1 C?

Schremp was never considered to be in the same tier as Drouin. Scouts had many question marks about how his skills would translate to the NHL. I don't see nearly the same worries mentioned about Drouin.

I actually think Schremp was a reasonable risk to take in the late 1st round, but everyone knew he was as likely to be a strike out as a homerun (as many late 1st rounders are).

Vinny01 · 03-22-2013, 09:33 AM

Drouin is LW is he not? The flames have Gaudreau and Baertschi on the left side. This team needs centers but having said that if we picked Drouin I would be happy. I take MacKinnon over him if we have the choice

JiriHrdina · 03-22-2013, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by North East Goon

I cant comment on the recent drafts as none have any NHL experience. Button is still the twit running things, so I have to assume not much has changed at all.

I think it is actually Weisbrod that is running the draft. My theory, and it is a theory only, is that Button has seen a change in his role under the Feaster/Weisbrod management - and that Weisbrod is now the "guy" for draft decisions.

In either case though, the early signs are that recent drafting has been strong. Remains to be seen but there's no reason to assume they are going to screw up this draft.

Tinordi · 03-22-2013, 09:36 AM

Weird how underrated Seth Jones is 'round here.

I'm getting quite tired of the "number one centre" phrase that's constantly used around here. For a Flames team utterly bereft of elite young talent you take the best player available, none of this hogwash of drafting for position. You only ever do that if you think you're a piece away over a window of 3 years. Flames are multiple pieces away over a window of 5 years.

Jones looks special.

edn88 · 03-22-2013, 09:39 AM

I cannot cheer (or hope) for them to lose, but if we end up with a high draft pick (and hopefully one or two other first rounders) that we are able to pick wisely.

AltaGuy · 03-22-2013, 09:40 AM

Yeah, I've liked our picks in recent drafts. Not worried there.

It's our ability to make trades that's worrisome about this management regime. The waiting in the next few weeks will be unbearable to see what we pull off!

ClubFlames · 03-22-2013, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick Oilers Troll

Not even close... Drouin is the next schremp.

If you're picking 1st it has to be Mac or Barkov... Do you wan't stajan as your #1 C?

Huge difference between Drouin and Schremp. Schremp had the skill but had no desire, determination or poise to make it in the big leagues. On the other hand, Drouin is considered future captain material.

Psytic · 03-22-2013, 09:47 AM

One angle we are forgetting is even if we do draft someone like Seth Jones or John Drouin (although I prefer Barkov) the Flames will probably suck #### and be bottom 5 for at least another season or two maybe more depending on how fast the prospects develop.

ONE good draft isn't going to magically turn this team around. We aren't a few good trade pieces away from being a contender just like we aren't a few good prospects away. We could grab a Centre in 2014 if not this year lol. This team wont have arrived if it even does for at least 2 to 4 seasons.

Erick Estrada · 03-22-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinordi

Jones looks special.

So did Bouwmeester. Take the center and pick defensemen later in the draft. You build teams around the center position and bolster the team with defensemen. We saw with Nashville that having two of the top defenseman in the league isn't enough to overcome lack of elte talent at forward and name a recent Stanley Cup winner that didn't have a true elite center.