Bracket busting 2013 also the NCAA tourney thread.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by moon

I obviously hope your wrong, not only as a Duke fan but because I hate MIchigan St, but fear you are right. Plumlee is so hit and miss and seems to disappear at times against top big guys.

I think Dukes best is better than anyone else but they just seem to struggle with consistency at times. Almost complete opposite of the Smith/scheyer/Singker team that win it a few years ago.

Plumlee can't handle a top big man, he's too soft. Without him Duke's best isn't that great.

Also, hilarious that you're a Duke fan.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by moon

Even though I think it is a bit of a joke that the A-10 and MWC have more teams than the ACC it is fun to watch the smaller schools in the first two rounds.

Such a great tournament and about as perfect as you can get for TV watching.

I don't know how you could possibly make a case that a team like Virginia had a better year than the teams in the A10. The fact that A10 does not have BCS football, does not mean it wasn't a top basketball conference this year.

[Rjcsjc62]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

It appears that you can legally watch only one game online. Valpo/Mich St game on now, other games say you have to be in the US region.

I came to post the same thing. I watched the Mich State game and now I cant get streaming video for anything. Will there be other games available?

[moon]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

I don't know how you could possibly make a case that a team like Virginia had a better year than the teams in the A10. The fact that A10 does not have BCS football, does not mean it wasn't a top basketball conference this year.

Better competition and schedule.

If Virginia played in A-10 they easily make it in the tournament but no big deal they punished small schools for awhile just seems like they went a little too much other way this year.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Rjcsjc62

I came to post the same thing. I watched the Mich State game and now I cant get streaming video for anything. Will there be other games available?

Had the same issue but now can get all of the games. I'm in the US though.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Rjcsjc62

I came to post the same thing. I watched the Mich State game and now I cant get streaming video for anything. Will there be other games available?

St Mary's vs Memphis appears to be working right now.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by transplant99

This tourney is so much fun to watch...just something so pure about it.

For those not watching, this Bucknell/Butler game is a gooder all of a sudden with Bucknell going on a serious run and Butler trying to fight back....1 pt game with 9 mins left.....its been a roller coaster this half.

I love it that, starting back at the conference tournaments, essentially 200+ teams have a chance to win the national championship by winning out, no matter how bad they have been up to the point.

Take note NCAA football- you don't even have a FBS national championship!

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by moon

Better competition and schedule.

If Virginia played in A-10 they easily make it in the tournament but no big deal they punished small schools for awhile just seems like they went a little too much other way this year.

Virginia went 0-3 against CAA teams. I have doubts they would have gone better than 11-7 in the ACC. The top 12 or so A-10 teams are better team for team than the ACC this year. It is only football biases that label the A10 and MWC as mid majors.

[moon]

I am not sure i agree with that and think if there was an ACC/a-10 challenge the ACC easily wins but maybe I am putting to much emphasis on the top ACC teams being so much better than the A-10 teams.

Either way Virginia has some terrible losses and only has themselves to blame but LaSalke beat exactly 0 impressive teams and should not have been in the tournament even as a play-in team.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

Virginia went 0-3 against CAA teams. I have doubts they would have gone better than 11-7 in the ACC. The top 12 or so A-10 teams are better team for team than the ACC this year. It is only football biases that label the A10 and MWC as mid majors.

No they arent...thats just ridiculous. Their top 4 might be on par or close to it...but past that it is no contest.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

I love it that, starting back at the conference tournaments, essentially 200+ teams have a chance to win the national championship by winning out, no matter how bad they have been up to the point.

Take note NCAA football- you don't even have a FBS national championship!

There are so many differences between football and basketball that an attempt to make any comparison is ridiculous.

What makes the NCAA Tournament (and to a lesser extent, some smaller conference tournaments) so great? I'd say it's the stakes. Win and you have a chance at a championship. Lose and you're done. That pretty much describes NCAA football's regular season.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by transplant99

No they arent...thats just ridiculous. Their top 4 might be on par or close to it...but past that it is no contest.

After the top 4, it is a bunch of football schools that don't care about basketball:

Florida St
Maryland
BC
Georgia Tech
Wake Forest
Clemson
VA Tech

vs some solid basketball programs:

la salle
UMass
Xavier
Charlotte
Richmond
St' Joes
Dayton
St. Bonnies



Next year will be a completely different story with ACC getting stronger, and A10 losing teams, but this year the A10 holds it own.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Wichita State up by 15 on Pitt very late in the game. I don't have them beating Gonzaga in my bracket, but I am looking forward very much to seeing that matchup (assuming Gonzaga isn't the first #1 to lose in the first round).

[moon]

Maryland and GT have been to finals in the last 10 years so tough to call them football schools that don't care.

Those first 4 teams on the ACC list compete for A-10 title most years if moved there. The A-10 had a good year but they are not in the same class of the ACC.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

After the top 4, it is a bunch of football schools that don't care about basketball:

Florida St
Maryland
BC
Georgia Tech
Wake Forest
Clemson
VA Tech

vs some solid basketball programs:

la salle
UMass
Xavier
Charlotte
Richmond
St' Joes
Dayton
St. Bonnies



Next year will be a completely different story with ACC getting stronger, and A10 losing teams, but this year the A10 holds it own.

Maryland, Ga Tech and Wake Forest all have pretty strong basketball histories.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

After the top 4, it is a bunch of football schools that don't care about basketball:

Florida St
Maryland
BC
Georgia Tech
Wake Forest
Clemson
VA Tech

vs some solid basketball programs:

la salle
UMass
Xavier
Charlotte
Richmond
St' Joes
Dayton
St. Bonnies



Next year will be a completely different story with ACC getting stronger, and A10 losing teams, but this year the A10 holds it own.

The A10 was 3-13 against the ACC this year by a quick calculation.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by transplant99

The A10 was 3-13 against the ACC this year by a quick calculation.

That doesn't help my argument any, but I'd argue small sample size.

A10 is 3-0 so far in this tournament. Let's keep score that way!

[Sainters7]

Is the Gonzaga/Southern announcer calling this game through a cardboard tube? Fix your sound levels, tbs!

[nfotiu]

What a finish in the St. Mary's game!

[moon]

Seriously Gotlieb, they don't have comparable athletes in the WCC as they do at Southern?

I could understand if they are playing Duke/Indiana/Kentucky but I am fairly certain Gonzaga has dealt with the athletes that SOuthern has.

Although as I type this the PBP guy seems to think that Southern has great athletes as well so maybe I am missing something.