03-12-2013, 09:44 AM
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#1
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Draft Pick
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Winnipeg, MB
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Olli Jokinen
guy ####ing sucks wow, you guys obviously knew what you were doing by letting him go.
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03-12-2013, 09:45 AM
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#2
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First Line Centre
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Thanks, we're building something special down here.
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03-12-2013, 09:47 AM
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#3
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Hmmm.
One can argue that he was our most consistent player from October 2010 to April 2012.
Jokinen was pretty good in his second stint.
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03-12-2013, 09:50 AM
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#4
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Imagine the backlash if the Flames brought Jokinen back for a third time.
Babchuk + Jackman for Jokinen.
Sadly he would probably actually really help this Flames team.
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03-12-2013, 09:50 AM
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#5
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
Hmmm.
One can argue that he was our most consistent player from October 2010 to April 2012.
Jokinen was pretty good in his second stint.
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....consistently not the best player.
He brought what he brought on a consistent basis - but what that was, was not nearly good enough.
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03-12-2013, 09:50 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Imagine the backlash if the Flames brought Jokinen back for a third time.
Babchuk + Jackman for Jokinen.
Sadly he would probably actually really help this Flames team.
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For that package? Yeah.
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03-12-2013, 09:54 AM
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#7
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Franchise Player
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Don't care that the flames let Olli go, but i still think the flames plan for this year was very flawed. Flames could not afford to get worse at the center position and compete for a playoff spot. If they truley wanted to compete for a playoff spot they would have been better off re-signing Olli or getting another center.
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03-12-2013, 09:56 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Jokinen was actually decent for the Flames last year.
And while letting him go may have been a good move, overall the Flames clearly do not have any clue what they're doing.
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03-12-2013, 09:59 AM
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#9
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Draft Pick
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Winnipeg, MB
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Well he certainly isnt doing anything here thats for sure. Was expecting a lot more out of him were stuck with him next year too
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03-12-2013, 09:59 AM
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#10
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuss275
Don't care that the flames let Olli go, but i still think the flames plan for this year was very flawed. Flames could not afford to get worse at the center position and compete for a playoff spot. If they truley wanted to compete for a playoff spot they would have been better off re-signing Olli or getting another center.
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Not to derail the thread but this is why I disagree with people who say the flames aren't rebuilding right now. The team would have been better with joki or stoll etc but they chose to allow backlund and cervenka to get more ice time with quality wingers.
Joki would have been an average second line center but really we needed to see what Backlund and Cervenka could do with those minutes to progress towards the future.
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03-12-2013, 10:02 AM
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Threadkiller
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: 51.0544° N, 114.0669° W
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Have you guys tried feeding him a big mac meal yet?
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03-12-2013, 10:04 AM
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#12
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GGG
Not to derail the thread but this is why I disagree with people who say the flames aren't rebuilding right now. The team would have been better with joki or stoll etc but they chose to allow backlund and cervenka to get more ice time with quality wingers.
Joki would have been an average second line center but really we needed to see what Backlund and Cervenka could do with those minutes to progress towards the future.
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I agree with chosing to give Backlund more ice time. As for Cervenka, our scouts and Weisbrod did a horrible job in scouting him. He is not an NHL center, he is one of the softest players i have ever seen.
Also you don't sign Hudler and Wideman to big contracts if the flames were rebuilding.
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03-12-2013, 10:05 AM
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#13
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GOAT!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Imagine the backlash if the Flames brought Jokinen back for a third time.
Babchuk + Jackman for Jokinen.
Sadly he would probably actually really help this Flames team.
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Uh, I think even the most prominent Jokinen detractors on this board would be in favour of converting a Jackman into a Jokinen at the measly cost of a Babchuk.
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03-12-2013, 10:07 AM
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#14
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
Uh, I think even the most prominent Jokinen detractors on this board would be in favour of converting a Jackman into a Jokinen at the measly cost of a Babchuk.
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Meant in the media...they would not care about the return, they lost their minds when we brought him back for free...know that most on here came around to Jokinen last season.
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03-12-2013, 10:12 AM
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#15
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
Not to derail the thread but this is why I disagree with people who say the flames aren't rebuilding right now. The team would have been better with joki or stoll etc but they chose to allow backlund and cervenka to get more ice time with quality wingers.
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Bingo.
Management and the owners are rebuilding. They just haven't told any of the fans.
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03-12-2013, 10:21 AM
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#16
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Originally Posted by blankall
Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
Not to derail the thread but this is why I disagree with people who say the flames aren't rebuilding right now. The team would have been better with joki or stoll etc but they chose to allow backlund and cervenka to get more ice time with quality wingers.
Bingo.
Management and the owners are rebuilding. They just haven't told any of the fans.
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I've felt this way since the Regehr trade. It's just not an all at once firesale, but it's been slowly happening the past couple seasons. Will be very interesting to see what we do leading to April 3rd.
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03-12-2013, 10:25 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
Not to derail the thread but this is why I disagree with people who say the flames aren't rebuilding right now. The team would have been better with joki or stoll etc but they chose to allow backlund and cervenka to get more ice time with quality wingers.
Joki would have been an average second line center but really we needed to see what Backlund and Cervenka could do with those minutes to progress towards the future.
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Have either one of those guys actually got those minutes? Seemed like Tanguay got the Jokinen top line minutes.
Also, not sure that adding a 26 year old center is much of a rebuild.
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03-12-2013, 10:25 AM
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#18
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Retired
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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
Hmmm.
One can argue that he was our most consistent player from October 2010 to April 2012.
Jokinen was pretty good in his second stint.
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He was the Flames best player for the first 60 games last season.
Just don't expect 1st line type play from him.
Line him up against some of the bigger offensive threats and use him for Powerplay zone entry (arguably the best Flame at gaining the blueline we've had, and it is missed). He was effective in that role.
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03-12-2013, 10:30 AM
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#19
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Franchise Player
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Does anyone honestly believe that the Flames would be in a different position right now if they had re-signed Jokinen?
The Flames had exactly the same amount of success when he was here as they're having now.
I thought the general desire among fans was to get away from all of the 30-somethings that have not gotten us into the playoffs.
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03-12-2013, 10:33 AM
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#20
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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I liked Jolli while he was here... honestly have not watched him play much for the Jets, but too bad he is not doing well this year.
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