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Old 03-12-2013, 12:54 AM   #201
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Nearly everyone outside of Glenncross is overpaid on this team not just Jbo. I can't think of anyone else that is a deal right now.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:24 AM   #202
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Bouw for Stastny. Colorado has O'Reilly now and aren't sore about the offer sheet thing, right?
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Old 03-12-2013, 07:59 AM   #203
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We should not target Stastny, he's over paid and over hyped. It would only be trading away one problem in JayBow for another in Stastny.

I think the Wings and Flyers really want him, go after picks and prospects.
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:16 AM   #204
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Bouwmeester is the only Flames d-man who can play against top line forwards and after watching Giordano try to do it this year, suddenly Butler attempt at it last year doesn't look so bad.
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:23 AM   #205
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Bouwmeester is the only Flames d-man who can play against top line forwards and after watching Giordano try to do it this year, suddenly Butler attempt at it last year doesn't look so bad.
That is the problem Flames management faces. The guy's is a legit top pairing defenseman and if you trade him you are going to have guys like Brodie, Giordano, Butler, etc playing more to pick up the 25+ minutes Bouwmeester logs. Not exactly promising although it would be an opportunity to bring Breen up.

Problem is that he's not the difference maker he's paid to be and he's probably going to bolt at the end of next season. It's one of those things where you can justify moving him by saying that you are already 15th and the team can't fall any further. If they are still on this 'win now' direction they surely may believe it's better to keep him and trade him at the deadline next season if the opportunity is presented.
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:39 AM   #206
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Bouwmeester is the only Flames d-man who can play against top line forwards and after watching Giordano try to do it this year, suddenly Butler attempt at it last year doesn't look so bad.

Ya, if one of those guys were forced to take JayBow's minutes we'd probably end up 15th in west.....wait... You mean if we traded him we wouldn't be able to make that late season push to 9th?

Arguing about saving this season is kind of a joke. The Flames aren't making the playoffs. Next year we should be moving forward and we need to find tallent from within if we're going to be good, having JayBow on the team making around 10% of the cap wouldn't make sense. If we can move him now, we'd aquire assets and probably end up not doing as well as we've been doing (lol) OR someone might step up to replace JayBow.

If we don't trade him and keep this team as is, we're going to get the same results we've been getting and that's not good. Sometimes change for the sake of change is good, heck we might even jump up to 14th if we make the right moves!
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:11 AM   #207
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If the Flames and Iginla decide to resign. They are likely to be picking in the top 5 for the draft.

The way Bouwmeester has played this season and how GM's covet big ice time logging mobile D men. Jay could get the Flames another 1st round pick.
There will not be many high ice time D men available and it seems to be every draft deadline that is what most GM's are trying to find.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Flames going into the draft with 2 first round picks.
They could even flip the later 1st round pick for a trade. Center or tougher stay at home D man.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:19 AM   #208
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bouwmeester is pretty avg. Not overly smart, good skater, extremely weak and non-physical.

i actually think he should NOT play against other team's best lines, as unless he's playing overly offensive, he's simply not good enough as a defensive dman.

hopefully his value has increased a bit this season, but this is a contract that flames need to move.

His EA "poise" score should be 12 out of a possible 100. His play with the puck last night with the goalie pulled was just laughable.
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:17 AM   #209
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Hartley talking about Brown's goal, said that Brown can't be left all alone and "we all know who should be covering that".

Bouw (and also a lot of the time this year Comeau) should understand that you can't just stand in front of the net and watch the puck carrier. He will not be passing it to you. He will be passing it to someone who is going to be moving away from you when you are not looking. Yeesh.

There is a reason he is in the top few D men in the league for GA every year. And why he has never made the playoffs.

And about the top minutes against top players, it's not Crosby or Malkin lighting him up, it is guys like Raffi Torres blowing around him.

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Old 03-12-2013, 10:27 AM   #210
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If the Flames and Iginla decide to resign. They are likely to be picking in the top 5 for the draft.

The way Bouwmeester has played this season and how GM's covet big ice time logging mobile D men. Jay could get the Flames another 1st round pick.
There will not be many high ice time D men available and it seems to be every draft deadline that is what most GM's are trying to find.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Flames going into the draft with 2 first round picks.
They could even flip the later 1st round pick for a trade. Center or tougher stay at home D man.
The Flames need a big ice time logging mobile D man. Would you give up a 1st round for him to join the Flames? You also have him as your highest paid player when you need to drop the cap by 6-7M next year?

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