N. Korea vows to end Korean War cease fire...

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

How hard would it be for seal team 6 to drop in and take him out?

right and that would clear things up..........

[Puppet Guy]

I always wondered that if hostilities began between the Koreas, if a large airdrop of Big Macs and other food items (with the promise of more to follow) across NK would be enough to sway the populace.

[blankall]

Not happening.

China will not back them in the event of a war. North Korea would be done in a few days. The only issue would be how many South Koreans they kill in the process. Kim Jong-Un is a pampered brat. Zero chance he is prepared for a state of total war.

[Sakari]

This is the issue here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutuall...ed_destruction

Basically, if NK launches a nuke at the US, and the US does the same, then NK shoots a bunch more, knowing that it's all about to end anyways, and the entire country gets messed up. And with that, the whole world gets screwed up. Next thing we know, the worlds completely destroyed.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Sakari

This is the issue here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutuall...ed_destruction

Basically, if NK launches a nuke at the US, and the US does the same, then NK shoots a bunch more, knowing that it's all about to end anyways, and the entire country gets messed up. And with that, the whole world gets screwed up. Next thing we know, the worlds completely destroyed.

haha, MAD only applies when both of the countries have more that 3 devices. Basically if NK launched a nuke at the US it would fail and splash down 200 km east of Japan.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by nik-

haha, MAD only applies when both of the countries have more that 3 devices. Basically if NK launched a nuke at the US it would fail and splash down 200 km east of Japan.

Not to mention that the nukes NK has are pretty pathetic. They'd be capable of destroying a few city blocks. The US's advanced thermonuclear weapons are of an entirely different scale.

The estimates for the NK bombs thus far put it in the 6-7,000 TNT ton equivalent. Modern American nukes. In the 60s, the US and the USSR had bombs about 10,000 times more powerful than that. No one really knows what they have now, but it's doubful the US would waste a newer bomb on N. Korea, in the event of full out nuclear war. They'd probably just unload a small portion of their 5000+ inventory.

Get Russia or China involved and it's another story. I can't see them backing N. Korea at this point though.

[nik-]

The mass produced arsenal nukes are actually a lot smaller than one would think. Most are in the 100 to 500kt range.

Obviously much larger than NK's, and still enough to thrash your city, but nothing like the late thermonuclear tests. That was mostly sabre rattling.

[BBQorMILDEW]

If only they had oil....

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by BBQorMILDEW

If only they had oil....

Its funny, they're one of the richest countries in the world in terms of minable goods and strategic metals, if they actually tried to exploit it they would probably be able to buy their way out of their problems.

Instead Kim Jong-il and his old man decided that food production in that wasteland was the way to go and miserably failed due to a lack of fertile land.

They also decided that they should be a manufacturer where they built tractors and sold them to the Soviets, of course they couldn't figure out how to build a reverse gear.

Its a company that up until the late 70's was on a upward climb and had a higher GDP then their neighbours to the south. Then Junior took over and corruption took root and the starvation really began.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by blankall

Not to mention that the nukes NK has are pretty pathetic. They'd be capable of destroying a few city blocks. The US's advanced thermonuclear weapons are of an entirely different scale.

The estimates for the NK bombs thus far put it in the 6-7,000 TNT ton equivalent. Modern American nukes. In the 60s, the US and the USSR had bombs about 10,000 times more powerful than that. No one really knows what they have now, but it's doubful the US would waste a newer bomb on N. Korea, in the event of full out nuclear war. They'd probably just unload a small portion of their 5000+ inventory.

Get Russia or China involved and it's another story. I can't see them backing N. Korea at this point though.

Perspective.

The Ohio class Sub carries 24 Trident II nuclear missiles. Each missile carry's 8 independently target warheads that can each hit a target within 30 feet, and has a range of 4,000nm. each warhead has a yield of about 4 mega tonnes

That's 192 warheads on one boat and the USA have 14 of these subs alone,If NK ever fired a missile on the USA I suspect nobody would be living there for 50 years.

It's a scary world indeed.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

I don't think Japan, South Korea and China would appreciate the US turning NK into a nuclear wasteland. There would be more than enough conventional munitions to get the job done with maybe a tactical nuke for a bunker or two.

Also FWIW I wonder if NK nukes are more of a red herring and there is more to really fear from cyber warfare.

[polak]

Nuke the whales?

[Regulator75]

Well, you gotta Nuke something...

[GoinAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

How hard would it be for seal team 6 to drop in and take him out?

Screw Seal Team 6, send in JTF2. That would blow some minds.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by GoinAllTheWay

Screw Seal Team 6, send in JTF2. That would blow some minds.

When JTF2 starts getting recognition on Cracked.com you know they're elite

http://www.cracked.com/article_20301...countries.html

[Vulcan]

I never knew it but we have special forces in Mali and the opposition is on board.

Opposition NDP Leader Tom Mulcair told Solomon that if the special forces are protecting Canadians, the embassy and embassy staff, that is "simply normal protection" and not military involvement.
Mulcair pointed to the need to avoid a situation such as that in Benghazi, Libya, last summer, when the American ambassador and others were killed during an attack on the U.S. Consulate there.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/stor...li-monday.html

I saw a report that we had troops on the ground during the Libya revolt but when I went looking for it again to make a link, it was gone.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I never knew it but we have special forces in Mali and the opposition is on board.



http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/stor...li-monday.html

I saw a report that we had troops on the ground during the Libya revolt but when I went looking for it again to make a link, it was gone.

this is cheesy but from people that I know the speculation is that there were JTF-2 soldiers on the ground assisting with air to ground targeting and advanced recon, they were not involved with the Libyan rebels.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by T@T

Perspective.

The Ohio class Sub carries 24 Trident II nuclear missiles. Each missile carry's 8 independently target warheads that can each hit a target within 30 feet, and has a range of 4,000nm. each warhead has a yield of about 4 mega tonnes

That's 192 warheads on one boat and the USA have 14 of these subs alone,If NK ever fired a missile on the USA I suspect nobody would be living there for 50 years.

It's a scary world indeed.

Pfft, I'm not afraid of a missile with a range of 4,000 nanometers.

[FlameOn]

Kim Jong Un on Dennis Rodman

[Knut]

North Korea is hinting at a Pre-emptive Nuclear Strike

http://rt.com/news/north-korea-nuclear-strike-935/


Report on NK's capability of turning Seoul into a "Sea of Fire" - Great read

http://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-...c-and-reality/


Likely just more sabre-rattling to try and prevent the upcoming UN sanctions from coming into place.