Hugo Chavez has died

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by blankall

No a dictator died. He doesn't deserve any more respect than the basic democratic rights he stomped all over during his life.

Not to mention the thousands of his own people he murdered in the name of socialism.

The world is a better place without him.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by PIMking

didn't Canadians follow suit and go into Iraq too?

nope, neither time.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

nope, neither time.

We actually cared about 9/11 and went to the right country to avenge those who died that day.

I wonder how many cdn soldiers would have lived if the US didn't go invade Iraq and sent more troops to Afghanistan?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

We actually cared about 9/11 and went to the right country to avenge those who died that day.

I wonder how many cdn soldiers would have lived if the US didn't go invade Iraq and sent more troops to Afghanistan?

I meant either Iraq war, Sr's and Jr's.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I meant either Iraq war, Sr's and Jr's.

yeah. i meant the 2nd time.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

ahhh, should have paid more attention to the source of the comment.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

yeah. i meant the 2nd time.

ok

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by Slava

Here is a very good article on Chavez and a little more detail on his ruling and death.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...ead?CMP=twt_gu

oh look, the guardian singing praises to another left wing dictator's name

[WCW Nitro]

Frustrating, but not surprising, to see the media portray him as some crazy,evil dictator. Too bad they don't mention that he was giving FREE oil to low-income Americans.

http://www.boston.com/business/ticke...reverse_p.html

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

We actually cared about 9/11 and went to the right country to avenge those who died that day.

I wonder how many cdn soldiers would have lived if the US didn't go invade Iraq and sent more troops to Afghanistan?

Meanwhile, in Venezuala, 59 people are murdered every day. Much more than in post war Iraq, BTW. Easily one of the most dangerous countries on the planet.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Thank god we had Chretien as our Prime Minister and not Harper at the time! So NO!! Otherwise i'm sure Al Queda would have bombed us like London.

Afghanistan though right?

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Afghanistan though right?

For sure. That was the right country. Too bad it didn't have enough oil for Bush.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

For sure. That was the right country. Too bad it didn't have enough oil for Bush.

when you post ######ed stuff, I always assumed you do it for sheet and giggles.

i guess i was wrong?

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

when you post ######ed stuff, I always assumed you do it for sheet and giggles.

i guess i was wrong?

######ed. yeah. Thats why the only major country who joined Bush in his crusade was England. I guess everyone else was just ######ed.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

######ed. yeah. Thats why the only major country who joined Bush in his crusade was England. I guess everyone else was just ######ed.

I meant the oil stuff and you know it

[troutman]

Hugo Chavez has died

Thread title, or Rage Against The Machine song?

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

I meant the oil stuff and you know it

So it was just a coincidence Iraq has oil? What was the point of it? After 9-11 it was guns blazing for Bin Laden who every one knew was in Afghanistan not Iraq.

Don't tell me that some Americans actually thought Bin Laden was in Iraq right?

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

So it was just a coincidence Iraq has oil? What was the point of it? After 9-11 it was guns blazing for Bin Laden who every one knew was in Afghanistan not Iraq.

Don't tell me that some Americans actually thought Bin Laden was in Iraq right?

Except that invading Iraq didn't actually increase global oil supply. In fact, it dramatically decreased it. Particularly during the terms Bush was in power.

We're only now at pre-production levels:

http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.asp...aph=production

America only gets a tiny fraction of their oil from Iraq:

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move...im0_mbbl_m.htm

So basically, you are saying the US invaded Iraq, drove up the price of oil dramtically, in order to gain greater access to a fraction of a percent of their oil supply?

Oh and that's not how it played out at all. The US was getting far more Iraqi oil in the years proir to the latest invasion:

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Lea...s=MTTIMIZ1&f=M

Believe it or not, the USA is actually making good on their promiss to wean themselves off middle eastern oil:

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Lea...s=MTTIMXX1&f=M

Considering that the US population, and the demand for energy with it, is rapidly growing, any decrease in oil imports is a huge accomplishment. The 40% or so decrease we've seen is ridiculous.

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

So it was just a coincidence Iraq has oil? What was the point of it? After 9-11 it was guns blazing for Bin Laden who every one knew was in Afghanistan not Iraq.

Don't tell me that some Americans actually thought Bin Laden was in Iraq right?

Not oil but something much worse: ideology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project...erican_Century

In any case, the world is a slightly better place with one less dictator.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Not to derail the thread too much, but Iraq was about Halliburton and those companies who made an absolute killing (literally and figuretively) as war profiteers.