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Old 03-04-2013, 07:51 PM   #1
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With the new lottery system with every team that misses the playoffs all having a shot at first overall. Would you rather the flames push for the playoffs and maybe sneak in with a slim chance at a top 5 pick if they barely miss? Or tank with a better chance of that coveted top 5 pick?



Here are the odds for the lottery April 29.


Team 1 25.0%

Team 2 18.8%

Team 3 14.2%

Team 4 10.7%

Team 5 8.1%

Team 6 6.2%

Team 7 4.7%

Team 8 3.6%

Team 9 2.7%

Team 10 2.1%

Team 11 1.5%

Team 12 1.1%

Team 13 0.8%

Team 14 0.5%
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:54 PM   #2
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I don't like those odds. Make the playoffs, win the cup!
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:55 PM   #3
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Not sure where the top five pick comes in in your scenario. If the Flames just miss the playoffs, they would either pick first overall, at their regularly seeded spot, or one spot below that.

Beyond that, the goal of the organization should always be to win. Losing to aim for a top pick is distasteful and greasy.
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:58 PM   #4
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Not sure where the top five pick comes in in your scenario. If the Flames just miss the playoffs, they would either pick first overall, at their regularly seeded spot, or one spot below that.

Beyond that, the goal of the organization should always be to win. Losing to aim for a top pick is distasteful and greasy.

I know what you mean, didn't word that right. How about the last 3 years usual suckage
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:21 PM   #5
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This is also the way the up coming 2013 draft is. The weightings might be a little different but 14 could draft #1
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:35 PM   #6
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I can already see it.

Flames finish 30th overall, draft 14th.

Book it.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:36 PM   #7
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:09 PM   #8
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I can already see it.

Flames finish 30th overall, draft 14th.

Book it.
not sure if serious??

if Flames finished last and 14th place wins the lottery you dont switch spots with them, we would just be bumped to #2 overall pick
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:45 PM   #9
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Every non playoff team could move up to number 1, but the most you can move down is one spot. Finish 30th overall, and you are guaranteed a top two pick.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:56 PM   #10
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I can already see it.

Flames finish 30th overall, draft 14th.

Book it.
You've got it all wrong, Flames finish in 9th place, win the lottery, but unfortunately Feaster has traded that pick for Rico Fata, Dick Tarnstrom, and the rights to Jani Rita.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:58 PM   #11
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I will never cheer against a Flames loss. I hope the Flames make the playoffs. However, if they don't, I hope they finish very low this year. Shortened season (less pain!) and a very high-end draft.

It is definitely tempting. I have relegated myself to thinking: "If the Flames are out of it, trade some key pieces, play Taylor AND Irving in net the rest of the way to see if either of them are worth signing next season to an NHL contract (Taylor especially, as we really saw very little of him yet). Bring up some of our youth and start judging how they are playing in the NHL (Reinhart and Breen mostly).

It is really tempting to want to tank this season, but I still want the Flames to try and make a run - but just be realistic about their chances if they are out of it by deadline day.

Maybe they don't have to 'tank' - maybe if they are out of it, and sell a couple of assets and get more picks, you can use those to trade up into the top 5 or 6 maybe. The way I see it, a 'franchise player' is worth 4 picks. You trade 2 1st rounders and a 2nd, perhaps you creep into 'franchise territory' at the draft from maybe 10th - 14th place. Of course, you hold onto however many 1st round lottery-eligible picks until the lottery is over!

Imagine the Flames trading one of their 1st rounders away to move up, and then one of those ends up winning the lottery (small chance I know, since it is almost guaranteed that the teams they end up selling assets to will actually make the playoffs - Bouwmeester curse be damned!).
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:17 PM   #12
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My proposal would be:

25th-30th = 10% each
17th-24th = 5% each

Maximum drop from finishing positon = 5 places. (ie. lowest 30th could draft is 6th).

No benefit to tanking, and maintains excitement for all non-playoff teams...the math is also easily digestible.
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:36 PM   #13
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I don't like those odds. Make the playoffs, win the cup!
I agree.
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