[Trade] Oilers acquire Mike Brown for a conditional 4th rd pick

[moon]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I'm not saying he's great, but I am observing how his actions are impacting the northwest division. If you think McGratton doesn't motivate this a little bit, you're fooling yourself.

In the last 3 years Brown has fought middlewieghts all around the same size of him. This covers roughly 20 fights. He doesn't and can't fight with a guy McGrattan's size.

Calgary adding McGrattan has nothing to do with this deal as Brown won't fight McGrattan so adding him does nothing.

The Oilers have been a soft team all year (and for 3 years at least before that) so they would make a move like this whether Calgary added McGrattan or not. If you think they saw the McGrattan addition and said "lets add Mike Brown who will change nothing at all if McGrattan is in the game or not for the 1 game we have left against Calgary" you are fooling yourself.

The only team Feaster is affecting in the NW is the Flames and unfortunately it is in a very negative way.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by moon

In the last 3 years Brown has fought middlewieghts all around the same size of him. This covers roughly 20 fights. He doesn't and can't fight with a guy McGrattan's size.

Calgary adding McGrattan has nothing to do with this deal as Brown won't fight McGrattan so adding him does nothing.

The Oilers have been a soft team all year (and for 3 years at least before that) so they would make a move like this whether Calgary added McGrattan or not. If you think they saw the McGrattan addition and said "lets add Mike Brown who will change nothing at all if McGrattan is in the game or not for the 1 game we have left against Calgary" you are fooling yourself.

The only team Feaster is affecting in the NW is the Flames and unfortunately it is in a very negative way.

Then why now, and is BJ Crombeen a heavyweight? If not, who is?

[moon]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Then why now, and is BJ Crombeen a heavyweight? If not, who is?

Probably because now was when a guy they thought could fill the role became available.

No Crombeen is 210 lbs.

Not many heavyweights left really. Off the top of my head guys like Parros, Scott maybe Rupp and Mclaren and of course Mcgrattan. Seems like most of the big guys are down in the AHL and it is more of a middleweight guys that can play 10 mins league.

[Ruttiger]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I'm not saying he's great, but I am observing how his actions are impacting the northwest division. If you think McGratton doesn't motivate this a little bit, you're fooling yourself.

People have been saying for ages that Edmonton needs more grit and sandpaper, but when they make a move in that direction it's suddenly motivated by Calgary? Come on. The NW division doesn't entirely revolve around the Flames, as much as it may have seemed that way the past few days.

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Yes...you clearly havent watched him much.

That poster said our top 6 is too small, and I asked if Mike Brown will help that problem. The answer is yes only if Brown plays in the top 6, which he won't. 4 minutes a game isn't going to do any good for this franchise. If Brown comes in and pushes out MPS, we're in even more trouble than I think.

[PeteMoss]

Mike Brown used to play for the Canucks for any who don't know who he is.

And as moon mentioned.. he's not going to fight McGratton. He's more of a Lance Bouma type guy who will run around and hit guys (although he does fight more than Bouma). Basically Ben Eager the 2nd.

[PeteMoss]

Isn't it about time the media starts turning on the Oilers management? The 'building something special up there' stuff is fun and all. But how many years do they get until they actually have to win games?

Hall and Eberle are on the last years of their ELCs and start getting paid next year. RNH and Schultz have one year left on theirs. And their leading scorer (Gagner) is an RFA after this year as well. All of those guys will probably be $5 million + against the cap (plus Horchoff at 5.5).

[YYC in LAX]

Not sure if it's been posted already, but I find it interesting both this guy and Gagne were traded for a conditional 4th round pick. Wow.

[minnow]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Scrapper.....an answer to the McGrattan acquisition and adds a lot of grit to a small team.

He's not that tough. He is game though.

[CaptainCrunch]

Believe me when I say that if Brown drops the Gloves against McGratton it would be the dumbest career ending move that an Oiler could ever do.

They would have to pause the game to pick up the pieces of Brown's exploded head.

Brown is a pocket enforcer, he's only good enough for 4 minutes of running around, but he's not an answer to a true heavyweight.

[FAN]

Originally Posted by minnow

He's not that tough. He is game though.

If Mike Brown is considered "not that tough" of an NHL player who is significantly tougher in his weight class?

[VERVE]

Mike Brown is not traded to the Oilers to be an enforcer, if anything he is a middle weight. He is here to offer grit, compete every shift, energy guy and plays hard that not many players would like to play against. He is not dirty but plays balls out tough. I guess he is a "complete" 3-4 liner guy who likes to hit and can skate fast and not be a liability. I guess it is a good thing when his team mates stated they will miss his competitiveness and true heart and soul guy on and off the ice.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by FAN

If Mike Brown is considered "not that tough" of an NHL player who is significantly tougher in his weight class?

I would say Prust and Crombeen are better fighters in that weight class, the bonus is they can actually make plays as well.

[RITFW]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Believe me when I say that if Brown drops the Gloves against McGratton it would be the dumbest career ending move that an Oiler could ever do.

They would have to pause the game to pick up the pieces of Brown's exploded head.

Brown is a pocket enforcer, he's only good enough for 4 minutes of running around, but he's not an answer to a true heavyweight.

So you're saying Mike Brown would look like Stu Grimson after Dave Brown performed a career ending move on the Grim Reaper? Sounds about right. Difference being Mike Brown was not brought in to have anything to do with McGratton and they are not in the same weight class. As an aside, never seen McGratton kill penalities either, 'cept maybe his own. Also, Mike Brown can play hockey and he will get more than 4 mins a game.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Parallex

This.

Sutter drafted a goon... but he had a few actual hockey skills (at least in the Dub) and it was the 6th round so I didn't care so much (although it was still a waste since he almost certainly could have been had for free as an undrafted FA).

Not sure I am following. Darryl Sutter was gone by the time Calgary acquired PL3, and they didn't draft him - Feaster sent a 5th round pick to NJ for him. Are you talking about someone else?

[Calgary4LIfe]

You don't get middleweights to protect your players - you get middleweights to make your team harder to play against. Jackman's first year with the Flames was terrific - brought a lot of energy to the team, and fought when needed. The Oilers are just too soft, and this is to help address that. They still need to address that in their top 6, but they really need some sandpaper. Brown does that for them, but I doubt he will be 'protecting' the kids like they wanted in McIntyre or Hordichuk (who were both just way too undisciplined to be effective).

I haven't watched much of Brown, and there are definitely some mixed reviews from Toronto on him (some say 'good riddance' and some are very disappointed since he is a 'heart and soul' type of guy). I think a conditional 4th was probably too much though, as apparently he was about to be exposed to waivers.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Lchoy

Wow, Oilers overpaid if it become a 3rd round pick

This is the type of player you would draft with a 3rd round pick. How many 3rds make it to the show - Joey Leach wasn't even offered a contract.

Another year at slightly above league min - good pickup for Edm. While we were talking about grit and before we got McGrattan, thought Brown might be a target as he hits everything that moves and would have been an upgrade on Jackman.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by RITFW

So you're saying Mike Brown would look like Stu Grimson after Dave Brown performed a career ending move on the Grim Reaper? Sounds about right. Difference being Mike Brown was not brought in to have anything to do with McGratton and they are not in the same weight class. As an aside, never seen McGratton kill penalities either, 'cept maybe his own. Also, Mike Brown can play hockey and he will get more than 4 mins a game.

Yeah, your overweighting Brown. If you need him to kill penalties and get more then a handfull of minutes a game it speaks to how weak your bottom 6 is.

Mike Brown might be a heart and soul guy, but he's not a difference making player.

and the problem with middleweights like Brown is they can only run around generating energy for so long until someone like McGratton puts an end to it.

I don't know why your bringing up Grimson vs Brown unless your a typical Olyaz fan living in the past.

However

I don't know where you think you get the idea that Dave Brown ended Grimsons career, considering Grimson played until 2001 was a respected checker in the league and an penalty killer specialist.

Dave Brown's career ended about 6 years before that and he was noted for nothing except for one fight and was pretty much useless if he wasn't fighting.

You need to stop with bringing up stuff like this, your really making a fool out of yourself and its clear that you know very little about hockey.

Is that you Kevin Lowe?

[savemedrzaius]

I'm a Leafs fan, and trust me, the Oilers are going to love Brown.

Doesn't take too many dumb penalties, he's solid defensively, he's fast and great in the corners, and when he does fight he usually wins. Next time Oilers play Calgary you will notice him.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Red John

So Feaster gets slagged for slipping a 5th for a goon last year but now the Oilers lose a 4th for a guy who makes Eager and Hordichuk redundant.

Exactly. God I hate the national hockey media. So, so much.

If Feaster makes this deal, we're the laughingstock of the hockey world...actually if he makes any trade, we're the laughingstock of the hockey world.

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Crazy to think how different the Oilers look with Seguin, Landeskog, Murray to go along with Eberle.

More like how different would Seguin, Landeskog, Murray look if they had been drafted by the Oilers. That franchise has a way of ruining promising prospects.