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MrMastodonFarm · 03-04-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Reddit has a notable community of ephebophiles who feel their deviancy is natural.

Curious, what's not natural about it?

It might not be right, it's never okay to prey on a teenager but it's natural. I doubt if a person whose attracted to teenagers willed themselves to find that age group more attractive then women 25-30.

valo403 · 03-04-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

So again, out of convenience to yourself, you are able to reason that your ad revenue going to child pornography and hate groups is justifiable?

I mean if you do, fine, just be open enough to admit that convenience of web surfing is worth peripherally condoning horrible crimes.

If you want to cast the net wide enough I guarantee you I can find dozens of things you do that "peripherally condon[e] horrible crimes".

This is quite the holier than thou stance you're taking.

PsYcNeT · 03-04-2013, 01:55 PM

So there's some good Moving The Goalposts and some Ignoratio elenchi, you guys got anymore logical fallacies to throw at me? Or are you going to address the situation at hand?

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Originally Posted by MrMastadonFarm

Curious, what's not natural about it?

It might not be right, it's never okay to prey on a teenager but it's natural. I doubt if a person whose attracted to teenagers willed themselves to find that age group more attractive then women 25-30.

Perhaps natural was a wrong choice of words, as you're correct, chemical imbalances etc. can cause for same strange 'natural' behavior in humans. Perhaps "morally acceptable" was a better term.

valo403 · 03-04-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

So there's some good Moving The Goalposts and some Ignoratio elenchi, you guys got anymore logical fallacies to throw at me? Or are you going to address the situation at hand?

Are you going to climb down off your high horse anytime soon?

woob · 03-04-2013, 01:58 PM

I'm sure by me merely being on the Internet, traffic created by me is helping to create ad dollars for things I have no idea about. I could have a little discussion with my moral partners sitting on my shoulders every time I hit a site, but that seems a little much. Yes, CP is a terrible, terrible thing but there are probably a million more ad dollars generated by our surfing that are going to fund nutbar religious factions, so called terrorists, and the next US mass murderer, I'm sure.

My point is, do what you can when surfing to ensure you're doing it responsibility but if you're going to ask yourself "what is this click going to support?" every time you click something, you might as well go back to reading newspapers.

valo403 · 03-04-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Perhaps natural was a wrong choice of words, as you're correct, chemical imbalances etc. can cause for same strange 'natural' behavior in humans. Perhaps "morally acceptable" was a better term.

Based on who's standard of morality? Yours?

PsYcNeT · 03-04-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by valo403

Are you going to climb down off your high horse anytime soon?

I don't get where this is coming from. Either admit you don't give a #### about what Reddit does or doesn't support, or give a valid argument for why it's okay to specifically visit the site when it's known to host and condone terrible things. I didn't start the thread to feel superior, I started it to see how many people could openly agree that they just didn't care vs how many would try to rationalize it.

Also, not many here have chimed in on the over-arching amount of misogyny on the site. Is that okay too?

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Originally Posted by valo403

Based on who's standard of morality? Yours?

Who else's morality would I use?

ResAlien · 03-04-2013, 02:03 PM

So what's a goon then?

valo403 · 03-04-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

I don't get where this is coming from. Either admit you don't give a #### about what Reddit does or doesn't support, or give a valid argument for why it's okay to specifically visit the site when it's known to host and condone terrible things. I didn't start the thread to feel superior, I started it to see how many people could openly agree that they just didn't care vs how many would try to rationalize it.

Also, not many here have chimed in on the over-arching amount of misogyny on the site. Is that okay too?

Are you sure? Because that's exactly how you're coming off.

I don't visit Reddit often, it's not really on my radar, but I'm not going to pretend that my visiting the Reddit front page funds CP any more than I'm going to pretend that my purchase of a product with component parts manufactured in China leads to child labor. If anything there's much more of a direct link in the latter scenario, hence the question that you've declined to answer. It seems you've drawn a number of arbitrary lines and decided to pass judgement based on them.

woob · 03-04-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ResAlien

So what's a goon then?

Senator Clay Davis · 03-04-2013, 02:07 PM

Wow this whole thread (well at least Psycnet) screams of holier than thou.

Plett25 · 03-04-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Also, not many here have chimed in on the over-arching amount of misogyny on the site. Is that okay too?

Re: misogyny on CP

How can you in any good conscience continue to patronize this site, knowing that by doing so you are condoning misogyny?

Is it laziness? Lack of concern? Have you given up on the world and just don't care?

PsYcNeT · 03-04-2013, 02:10 PM

So I guess I can add Ad Hominem to the list now.

The unanimous decision seems to be that "bad #### happens, can't stop all of it."

It's been an interesting social experiment.

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Originally Posted by Plett25

Re: misogyny on CP

How can you in any good conscience continue to patronize this site, knowing that by doing so you are condoning misogyny?

Is it laziness? Lack of concern? Have you given up on the world and just don't care?

I missed those threads. Link plz so I can call people out on their idiocy.

Nehkara · 03-04-2013, 02:11 PM

Honestly, the reason I go to reddit is that I find it useful.

I have not experienced/seen the things that PsYcNeT speaks of.

It is a massive site with a lot of interesting/awesome things.

PsYcNeT · 03-04-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nehkara

Honestly, the reason I go to reddit is that I find it useful.

I have not experienced/seen the things that PsYcNeT speaks of.

It is a massive site with a lot of useful/awesome things.

Honestly, that's the thing that pisses me off the most. I actually *like* a good portion of Reddit, and was a user there for 5 years before I couldn't take it anymore.

Though the way the thread has painted me, I'm just doing this to be a smug #######, not get peoples opinions.

Nehkara · 03-04-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

So I guess I can add Ad Hominem to the list now.

The unanimous decision seems to be that "bad #### happens, can't stop all of it."

It's been an interesting social experiment.

I missed those threads. Link plz so I can call people out on their idiocy.

Wow.

Plett25 · 03-04-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

I missed those threads. Link plz so I can call people out on their idiocy.

Sorry... misread your post

woob · 03-04-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nehkara

Honestly, the reason I go to reddit is that I find it useful.

I have not experienced/seen the things that PsYcNeT speaks of.

It is a massive site with a lot of interesting/awesome things.

Yup, same here. I have a list of reddit bookmarks, on stuff that interests me, that I need to go back to and read because I haven't had time to read them yet but came across that at some point.

AR_Six · 03-04-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

The unanimous decision seems to be that "bad #### happens, can't stop all of it."

I like how you've distilled all of the fairly diverse commentary in your thread by myriad other posters to a quote that was said by precisely none of them. That takes some brass balls, right there.

core_upt · 03-04-2013, 02:16 PM

I'm pretty new to Reddit, don't have an account and don't post. I think it's a pretty good site, basically the entire internet in a nutshell. Mostly useless, some parts are great and there is without a doubt a darkside (which I didn't know about until the OP posted it).
I kind of get what the OP is saying, but I feel like this runs the same lines as free speech. While it is important to protect our freedom of speech for whatever you choose to believe in, doing so is also protecting freedom of speech for those who believe in thinks you are greatly opposed to. You can't really take one without the other.
And if reddit was eventually shutdown, what would the next step be? Should we then boycott google because someone could use it to look up CP, or bomb making tips, or whatever?