Should Feaster get fired over the O'Reilly offersheet fiasco

[MissTeeks]

“Prior to tendering the offer sheet for Ryan O’Reilly we, as a hockey operations department, examined whether there were any impediments to our successfully securing the services of the player including, but not limited to, his having played in the KHL after the start of the current NHL season.

Our interpretation of the Article 13 transition rules governing restricted free agents (“RFA”), and the applicability of Article 13.23 under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement to such RFA’s was, and continues to be, different than the NHL’s current interpretation as articulated to us this morning. Moreover, throughout our discussions, the player’s representative shared our interpretation and position with respect to the non-applicability of Article 13.23.

While we were prepared to advance our position with the NHL, in light of Colorado’s having matched the offer sheet it is now an academic point. As such, we will have no further comment on the matter, the player, or the offer sheet process.”

[craig.caulks]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I don't believe that, they announced they were matching and I imagine they had already contacted NHL head office to tell them that before being able to publically announce it. They had to have signed the match of the offer sheet before announcing they were matching it one would think.

If they had matched it wouldn't they say they HAVE matched it?

I am going to the game Saturday. I haven't gone yet. Not that I have any idea what the Avs have or haven't done.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

"We were going to further our position but because Colorado has matched we have no more comment on the player, the offer sheet, or the rule."

Translation: I got sent a lifeline after a monumentally bad decision, I'm ready to move on thanks.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by keenan87

How hard is it for them to just admit the mistake..

As for Feaster, he should really step-down. His career/support from the fans has been flushed down the toilet. A GM that everyone liked as of yesterday to one everyone wants fired. Best for him is to resign.

?

They did admit it was a mistake. They just said they interpreted the rule differently.

Thus, it was a mistake in the end.

[nik-]

I like how they say their interpretation continues to be different.

Sorry Feaster, you were wrong, you are wrong, stubbornly clinging to the wrong stance on something doesn't make it right.

I wonder how the Flames would have spun this if Daly hadn't of already clarified that we f'd up.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Breaking news from the Calgary Flames:

"Prior to tendering the offer sheet, we as a hockey ops department examined whether there were any impediments to us acquiring the player, including him having played in the KHL after the NHL season had started."

"Our interpretation regarding section 13 was and continues to be different than the NHLs current interpretation as communicated to us this morning."

"NHLPA representative shared our interpretation."

"We were going to further our position but because Colorado has matched we have no more comment on the player, the offer sheet, or the rule."

Unbelievable that they aren't going they are going to brush this off as no harm, no foul ...

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by kirant

I'm curious...what if, and this is just hypothetical, they actually did just interpret the rules differently and these are all just honest statements? Would it be worth turning around and fabricating that they just didn't know?

If you are not sure would you not at least check with the league first? Honestly I'm no lawyer but reading the article it looks pretty clear to me that the league is right and if the Flames interpreted things their way then the organization is in bigger trouble than we thought.

[kirant]

Originally Posted by browna

But because they signed him as a restricted free agent, he would have needed to clear before he could play for them this season. And there's a very good chance, had it come to that, that he would have been claimed. The Flames would not only have lost their first- and third-round picks, they also would have lost the very player that they gave them up for.

I know this is all academic (as this was likely never the intent), but what would the rules have been if he was signed this year, but came back during the summer?

[Flash Walken]

"And let's never speak of this again."

[Dr. Doom]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

“Prior to tendering the offer sheet for Ryan O’Reilly we, as a hockey operations department, examined whether there were any impediments to our successfully securing the services of the player including, but not limited to, his having played in the KHL after the start of the current NHL season.

Our interpretation of the Article 13 transition rules governing restricted free agents (“RFA”), and the applicability of Article 13.23 under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement to such RFA’s was, and continues to be, different than the NHL’s current interpretation as articulated to us this morning. Moreover, throughout our discussions, the player’s representative shared our interpretation and position with respect to the non-applicability of Article 13.23.

While we were prepared to advance our position with the NHL, in light of Colorado’s having matched the offer sheet it is now an academic point. As such, we will have no further comment on the matter, the player, or the offer sheet process.”

Sherman should jam his fax machine and jam Feaster over the fax machine for this too.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by craig.caulks

If they had matched it wouldn't they say they HAVE matched it?

I am going to the game Saturday. I haven't gone yet. Not that I have any idea what the Avs have or haven't done.

Well the Flames statement says that they have in fact matched it so it is a mute point now anyhow. Av's matched.....thank god.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by bluloc

Feaster's not a hockey guy. I never thought he would do the job, this pretty much seals it. I'd take Burke over Feaster any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

That's the thing. He is not a hockey guy so he needs to be an office guy. He has proved that he isn't competent in either so that leaves him no where.

What a loser for not admitting the mistake and for no more comments.

[Schultzie]

If I'm hearing correctly that Colorado has yet to officially submit the paperwork necessary to match the deal, this is going to get all kinds of hilarious.

[malcolmk14]

Neil Smith on the Fan 960 (Former NHL General Manager)

on the statement from the Flames: "Of course they're going to defend their position, they don't want to look like they were not knowledgeable in this situation.

Bill Daly and Gary Bettman wrote the CBA, Daly's interpretation of it is more likely to be correct than Jay Feaster (paraphrase)

[YYC in LAX]

BS statement. Ugh. These are dark times.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

"NHLPA representative shared our interpretation."

This was my first thought about this too. The PA would not want anything that impedes a player's ability to get the best deal possible.


I suspect there will be further clarification of the wording from the MOU, and it will ultimately come down on the side of the PA (and the side the Flames are on in this situation).


It is a pretty big risk to take, hoping you get a ruling that's in your favor on this.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

"And let's never speak of this again."

Speak of what?

[Erick Estrada]

I'm done. I do not accept this statement and would like to start the official fire Feaster thread where everything can be contained in one thread. Is that okay or are the mods going to shut it down?

[valo403]

Originally Posted by timbit

Kind of freaking important that maybe you check with the NHL.

Sure, but if the NHLPA shares the Flames position perhaps this was an attempt to take advantage of a loophole that would have required those two parties to duke it out.

[Dr. Doom]

Originally Posted by Schultzie

If I'm hearing correctly that Colorado has yet to officially submit the paperwork necessary to match the deal, this is going to get all kinds of hilarious.

It's making the rounds right now. Someone needs to tweet Bobby mac on it I'm surprised nobody has been able to confirm.