Should Feaster get fired over the O'Reilly offersheet fiasco

[CedarMeter]

Avs are pissed at Calgary they would screw them over in a second if they could..Scary thought at this moment.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Anduril

No doubt screwing over the Flames would be a good FU move by Sherman but if he doesn't match, he's still going to end up on a similar position, losing Reilly for a 1st and a 3rd.

I think what people are suggesting is that the Avs somehow blackmail the Flames to make a different trade that highly favors the Avs.

No way would that be allowed to happen.

[Cortez]

I could see Colorado thinking about not matching in light of this story. Even if they don't get first crack at ROR on waivers. They would have to belive that our pick will be a top 5 without ROR in our lineup. It could be worth it for them.
Man would that suck

[The Yen Man]

Lol, I haven't seen a meltdown of this proportion since the Phaneuf trade.

[Ozy_Flame]

At least I know the team is trying to improve, even if it's questionable at best. Feaster has been far more active on the roster move front that alot of other teams, and he wants the fans to know they're trying - even if smarks like us at CP know more than most.

Ryan O'Reilly would have been a fabulous addition to our team. Baertschi, Backlund, Brodie, O'Reilly and Horak is a damn good young core to build from, especially since our drafting has been subpar at best in recent memory.

The Flames as an organization needs to look in a mirror, but don't look to hard. They're trying to accomplish a youth movement while still making the team competitive - a gradual transition that is a gamble but can pay off big time.

I don't believe Feaster should be fired from this. There was no discussion about this yesterday from any of these whistleblowers yesterday - and I imagine the whole situation of O'Reilly on waivers was due to misinformed advice among the Flames / Avalanche / NHL / agents. Feaster just happens to be the scapegoat in all of this IMO.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by opendoor

I'm not sure it's all that ambiguous. Under the old CBA all unsigned players (including RFAs) would've had to pass through waivers if they sign a contract after they'd played games without being loaned after the NHL seasons started.

The new CBA keeps that rule, with the noted exception for signing your own RFAs. I'm not sure how Calgary could argue that the new exemption would apply to them.

You can't really point at a previous agreement as an interpretation of a new agreement. I don't see the language as written as being that clear, there's at least an argument to be made.

[Tinordi]

If I was a shareholder in the Avalanche then I would demand as part of the organization's responsibility to extract maximum value at any time of perceived leverage. That would be the only ethical thing to do.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Parallex

The point of that expression is that you get no credit for almost hitting your target in any endeavor outside of the game of horseshoes and the act of throwing grenades... in this case I'm using it to mean that almost committing a move that makes a negative impact is not the same as actually making a negative impact.

It's not meant to excuse ineptitude.
In fact, it's quite the opposite.

[Dr. Doom]

Kypreos just said nobody can get a hold of Sherman OR Feaster. But there's rumors the Avs haven't even formally done whatever it is they need to do and could foreseeably re-nag here its a total trainwreck they are having a field day!!!!!

[JurassicTunga12]

Steinberg on fan960 right now, should be good.

[PlayfulGenius]

Has anyone considered perhaps Feaster knew Sherman would match?? If there's a follow-up deal involving the Flames and Avs, then it would look like this was a planned occurrence... I'll wait a few days or so before passing judgment.

[sa226]

Maybe the Flames have a handshake deal with ROR that after he gets claimed, he bolts to Russia, plays a game then comes back.

Then he would have to clear waivers again, and we would have first dibs.

Disaster averted! Amirite? Guys?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

If they haven't officially matched then we are up crap creak riding a Feaster floatie.

No we're not. They've already announced their intention to match. From Colorado's viewpoint, they were willing to keep the player at $5m aav rather than take the first and third round picks. The waiver nonsense on our end does not change the result on their end. Either they are willing to take the player or they are willing to take the picks. They've already shown they want the player.

[dammage79]

This could explode here today.

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by sa226

Maybe the Flames have a handshake deal with ROR that after he gets claimed, he bolts to Russia, plays a game then comes back.

Then he would have to clear waivers again, and we would have first dibs.

Disaster averted! Amirite? Guys?

Quick! Change your signature before the already angry mob gets you!
Edit: smooth

[The Ditch]

A blog writer for sportsnet figured this out and we have a lawyer GM with a whole team helping him out and they weren't able to see this...ok

[dino7c]

Why would Colorado not match now? Their only play would be to make Calgary give up more to trade for his RFA rights. Otherwise they lose him to the BJ's just to screw over the Flames

[polak]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

No we're not. They've already announced their intention to match. From Colorado's viewpoint, they were willing to keep the player at $5m aav rather than take the first and third round picks. The waiver nonsense on our end does not change the result on their end. Either they are willing to take the player or they are willing to take the picks. They've already shown they want the player.

Our 1st with ROR would be much more likely to be a worse pick then our 1st without ROR and therefore, it might change their mind.

[kyuss275]

Listening to the Big Show and they just did a recap of the last 24 hours... I am about to cry.

[longsuffering]

Enough with the "Avs haven't officially matched" drama.

Their GM held a press conference announcing to the world they were matching. I can't see any scenario where the NHL wouldn't consider that as binding on the Avs.