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View Poll Results: Should Jay Feaster be fired?
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Yes he's the head of the hockey department
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No one of his reports are in charge of details like this
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No the offers sheet wasn't effective so no loss to the team
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03-01-2013, 12:00 PM
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#201
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by HELPNEEDED
Burke to Calgary EK 9999
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Hilarious. I imagine we'll hear that from some pundits.
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03-01-2013, 12:00 PM
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#202
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Wow. How does that even happen? IMO, he should be let go after that.
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03-01-2013, 12:01 PM
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#203
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Spector's Hockey @SpectorsHockey
Sounds like nobody (Flames, Avs, NHL, O'Reilly's agent, other GMs) were aware he would've had to pass thru waivers if Avs didn't match.
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03-01-2013, 12:01 PM
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#204
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by Murph
You gotta think O'Reilly's agents, Mark Guy and Pat Morris, get fired as well. If I were them, I'd start looking for new lines of work.
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The more people who were ignorant of this (and right now it pretty much seems like everyone) the less incentive there is to fire any one of them.
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03-01-2013, 12:01 PM
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#205
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The C-spot
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Originally Posted by opendoor
The Canucks never offered him a contract. Reports are the O'Reilly's camp contacted the Canucks to see if they were interested, but nothing came of it, at least not yet.
Not to mention, one of the Canucks' Assistant GMs (Gilman) is pretty much there exclusively to sort out cap and CBA issues and I expect they would've clarified it with the league before actually putting pen to paper.
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According to Feaster (and I realize the shakiness of so doing), there were other offer sheets for him yesterday. Maybe it wasn't the Canucks. But when pressed as to why they made the offer yesterday, it's because they felt if they didn't, he would have signed with another team.
My guess is the interpretation of this rule is, at least, uncertain right now. Also interesting legal issues with how binding the MOU is on something like this.
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03-01-2013, 12:01 PM
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#206
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Can GMs of other teams talk to RFAs?
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03-01-2013, 12:01 PM
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#207
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Yeah the myth of Weisbrod is an odd concept on this board. Just what has this guy done to make people so impressed by him?
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Hope.
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03-01-2013, 12:02 PM
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#208
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissTeeks
Spector's Hockey @SpectorsHockey
Sounds like nobody (Flames, Avs, NHL, O'Reilly's agent, other GMs) were aware he would've had to pass thru waivers if Avs didn't match.
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Ignorance does not forgive stupidity.
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03-01-2013, 12:02 PM
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#209
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Lifetime Suspension
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Fly by the seat of your pants administration.
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03-01-2013, 12:02 PM
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#210
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissTeeks
Spector's Hockey @SpectorsHockey
Sounds like nobody (Flames, Avs, NHL, O'Reilly's agent, other GMs) were aware he would've had to pass thru waivers if Avs didn't match.
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Yeah... the Avs should learn their lesson, wait a few days next time.
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03-01-2013, 12:03 PM
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#211
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by North East Goon
Fly by the seat of your pants administration.
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Rock Solid Plan / Intellectual Honesty? 
(too soon?)
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03-01-2013, 12:03 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by Phanuthier
Yeah... the Avs should learn their lesson, wait a few days next time.
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The matched quickly so that O'Reilly can be traded next year by the deadline if they so choose.
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03-01-2013, 12:03 PM
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#213
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: back in the 403
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Originally Posted by Yamer
Think I'll wait for a statement from the Flames and their management.
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This. While disasterous if true, I refuse to call for Feaster's head until this is actually confirmed. And frankly this wouldn't be the first time we (myself included) went nuts about something that turned out to be incorrect. Happy thoughts...
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03-01-2013, 12:04 PM
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#214
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissTeeks
Spector's Hockey @SpectorsHockey
Sounds like nobody (Flames, Avs, NHL, O'Reilly's agent, other GMs) were aware he would've had to pass thru waivers if Avs didn't match.
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Sounds like if it happened the Flames probably would have been able to resolve it because of the ambiguity of the new CBA, with the league not even knowing that the player would have had to pass through waivers. Probably wouldn't have been able to play until next season though, so that 1st round pick could have ended up being a pretty good one.
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03-01-2013, 12:04 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by HELPNEEDED
Can GMs of other teams talk to RFAs?
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Of course...that's what being a free agent means. Its the only way to have a player sign an offer sheet as well.
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03-01-2013, 12:04 PM
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#216
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by MissTeeks
Since no one is reading the other thread anymore:
Bruce Arthur @bruce_arthur
Ryan O'Reilly's agent, Pat Morris, just told @TSNRadio1050 that he didn't know his client would head to waivers if Colorado didn't match.
Bruce Arthur @bruce_arthur
Morris also said a number of other teams inquired about offer sheets. Presumably, none of them knew either, or they would have told him. |
I still don't think it makes it alright. The PR mess has been done, and only Calgary's name will be attached to it.
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03-01-2013, 12:04 PM
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#217
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Cool Ville
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Originally Posted by Sainters7
This. While disasterous if true, I refuse to call for Feaster's head until this is actually confirmed. And frankly this wouldn't be the first time we (myself included) went nuts about something that turned out to be incorrect. Happy thoughts...
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Fire him anyways.
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03-01-2013, 12:04 PM
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#218
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: PEI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissTeeks
Spector's Hockey @SpectorsHockey
Sounds like nobody (Flames, Avs, NHL, O'Reilly's agent, other GMs) were aware he would've had to pass thru waivers if Avs didn't match.
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This better not be the Flames excuse for holding onto Feaster.
Who really cares if anyone else knew? The Flames offered the contract so it's on them to make themselves aware of these things.
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03-01-2013, 12:04 PM
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#219
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
The matched quickly so that O'Reilly can be traded next year by the deadline if they so choose.
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Could have waited a day still. Trade deadline March 4-11? Could have set up a deal, the drop the hammer March 3 or something.
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03-01-2013, 12:04 PM
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Wucka Wocka Wacka
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: East of the Rockies, West of the Rest
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What role does O'Ryan's agent have in this? Is he not responsible for understanding what the terms his player is subject to?
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