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03-01-2013, 10:36 AM
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#1261
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
I can't believe people think O'Reilly would have had to have cleared waivers. Feaster is a frickin lawyer, he obviously had contact with the NHL regarding this and was under the impression O'Reilly would not have to clear waivers. If O'Reilly was not matched by the Av's and he did have to clear waivers the Flames would have to receive compensation from the NHL. I am certain Daly was right when he stated it would be under last years rules.
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Cause law is always black and white, and lawyers never make mistakes or deal with a gray area ... right?
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03-01-2013, 10:37 AM
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#1262
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Feaster would have gotten his information from the NHL. If there was a mistake here, it's on the league. The Flames would have be compensated.
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03-01-2013, 10:37 AM
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#1263
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Originally Posted by calumniate
If this rule is true, it would be effectively protecting the Avalanche from offer sheets on ROR? Strange
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Well, sort of - they still would've lost him as a team below them would probably have claimed him. Certainly, I would think.
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03-01-2013, 10:38 AM
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#1264
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Phanuthier
Cause law is always black and white, and lawyers never make mistakes or deal with a gray area ... right?
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No, lawyers do make mistakes but do you really think Feaster would sign the guy unless he knew he would not have to pass through waivers? The guy is not that stupid.
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03-01-2013, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Yeah, I honestly hesitated posting it but figured of all the things Eklund makes up, surely it wouldn't be quotes.
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Maybe something to remember before trying to get in shots of your own next time.
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03-01-2013, 10:40 AM
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Yeah, it seems odd that the NHL would actually have a rule in place that nullifies offer sheets on players playing elsewhere.
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03-01-2013, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Maybe something to remember before trying to get in shots of your own next time.
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Oh thanks, timbit's bff is here to swoop in and save the day.
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03-01-2013, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
Feaster would have gotten his information from the NHL. If there was a mistake here, it's on the league. The Flames would have be compensated.
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Do you remember the Dean Mcammond fiasco????
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03-01-2013, 10:41 AM
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Location: SW Ontario
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Anybody notice TSN who have the real hockey experts have not said boo about this? There is a reason for this, there is no story here. They are sitting back laughing at SN, it would be on their lead page if it had any merit.
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03-01-2013, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
Feaster would have gotten his information from the NHL. If there was a mistake here, it's on the league. The Flames would have be compensated.
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What are you talking about? No they absolutely wouldn't be compensated.
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03-01-2013, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
No, lawyers do make mistakes but do you really think Feaster would sign the guy unless he knew he would not have to pass through waivers? The guy is not that stupid.
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Could have been an oversight.
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03-01-2013, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
No, lawyers do make mistakes but do you really think Feaster would sign the guy unless he knew he would not have to pass through waivers? The guy is not that stupid.
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As far as we know! Things happen and oversights are made, the fact that there is still so much ambiguity to the whole thing makes it a HUGE oversight by Feaster and the Flames management team.
You can't just make an assumption of this magnitude when it could end up in a legal battle going one way or the other.
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03-01-2013, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
A problem is the clarifying note in that same 25-page summary:
"For further clarity, if Club A trades such a Player to Club B and Club B signs the Player to an SPC,such Player will be exempt from the application of CBA 13.23."
That would be a hard statement to overcome in the "the rule doesn't specify that it has to be your own RFA" argument.
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Isn't 13.23 that the player has to pass through waivers?
That means Ryan O'Reilly wouldn't have had to pass through waivers if he would have been exempt from this rule right?
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03-01-2013, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
No, lawyers do make mistakes but do you really think Feaster would sign the guy unless he knew he would not have to pass through waivers? The guy is not that stupid.
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Its not just that, The Vancouver media is saying that while they did not give an offer sheet to O Reilly they were just about to. They are also saying another team was about to do the same. Do posters really think between all of those GM's and lawyers that they would have all missed it?
Not to mention even if it is true, does anybody think a team would really take them to court? The flames would have the backing of the NHL,& NHLPA. Not to mention the bad will that team would have with O Reilly's agent and other agents.
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03-01-2013, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Anybody notice TSN who have the real hockey experts have not said boo about this? There is a reason for this, there is no story here. They are sitting back laughing at SN, it would be on their lead page if it had any merit.
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Who the hell is TSN? They aren't gods gift to hockey or the CBA. This story definitely has merit.
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03-01-2013, 10:43 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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SN is looking like a bunch of idiots on this.
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03-01-2013, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Anybody notice TSN who have the real hockey experts have not said boo about this? There is a reason for this, there is no story here. They are sitting back laughing at SN, it would be on their lead page if it had any merit.
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Or perhaps they decided not to deal with it because it's a moot point - you're right, there is no story here, because the Avs matched and no one is arguing that ROR should go through waivers now.
Though I'd be surprised if Bob doesn't do a writeup of some sort.
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03-01-2013, 10:44 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
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03-01-2013, 10:44 AM
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^^^ wow shocking news!
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03-01-2013, 10:45 AM
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#1280
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
Who the hell is TSN? They aren't gods gift to hockey or the CBA. This story definitely has merit.
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No, it really doesn't. It has merit because some journalist says so? The rule states the player is exempt if he is on a clubs reserve. He was, it does not specify the player has to sign with that team.
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