02-28-2013, 07:49 PM
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We are officially the Kevin Lowe run Flames, what a joke. Good job improving a divisional rival.
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02-28-2013, 07:49 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Buck Murdock
This kinda bugs me...the whole reason you do this is because YOU WANT THE PLAYER. So you need to make sure you get the player. You know you're over-paying because you're just buying the player. Why not make the offer one that garantees you win? Some people are patting Feaster on the back, but I can't help thinking he screwed this up....
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We couldn't have made it much higher because the compensation would have included a 2nd round pick (which we don't have).
Unless we offered $8.5 million per season, in which case it would be four 1st rounders.
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02-28-2013, 07:50 PM
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#43
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by mustache ride
You dont cripple your franchise worse than it already is just to get a borderline first line center.
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Then you don't put in the offer at all. All we did was give the Avs their best player back ASAP. We did them a huge favor.
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02-28-2013, 07:50 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by North East Goon
We are officially the Kevin Lowe run Flames, what a joke. Good job improving a divisional rival.
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I wouldn't say they improved because they are paying him more than they wanted to and will likely have to unload a player or two over the summer.
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02-28-2013, 07:50 PM
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#45
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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Originally Posted by North East Goon
We are officially the Kevin Lowe run Flames, what a joke. Good job improving a divisional rival.
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By making the Av's pay more money than they had to?
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02-28-2013, 07:50 PM
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by North East Goon
We are officially the Kevin Lowe run Flames, what a joke. Good job improving a divisional rival.
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Improving them is a stretch given that they spent considerably more money for him than they would have otherwise and he isn't exactly in positive favor with the organization right now. One way or another, the Avs were going to get something whether O'Reilly, players in a trade (prior to offersheet), or draft picks. The result of today for the Flames is that the Avs spent more than they wanted to on a situation they managed poorly.
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02-28-2013, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I wouldn't say they improved because they are paying him more than they wanted to and will likely have to unload a player or two over the summer.
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Was that there goal, or was the goal for us to overpay.
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02-28-2013, 07:53 PM
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#48
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: right behind you
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Originally Posted by Buck Murdock
Then you don't put in the offer at all. All we did was give the Avs their best player back ASAP. We did them a huge favor.
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I would have preferred that in the first place. What needs to happen now is someone needs to take away the keys from Feaster and King for the weekend so they don't go crazy with plan B.
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02-28-2013, 07:54 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by North East Goon
Was that there goal, or was the goal for us to overpay.
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I would think the goal was to try and get the ever elusive 1st line center.
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02-28-2013, 07:54 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Originally Posted by calgARI
Improving them is a stretch given that they spent considerably more money for him than they would have otherwise and he isn't exactly in positive favor with the organization right now. One way or another, the Avs were going to get something whether O'Reilly, players in a trade (prior to offersheet), or draft picks. The result of today for the Flames is that the Avs spent more than they wanted to on a situation they managed poorly.
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I got to agree this hurt the Avs. They could have signed him to this same offer 3 weeks ago if it is what they thought was best for their organization. We helped them in the short run, but hurt them long term. Especially the QO effect.
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02-28-2013, 07:54 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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I say kudos to Feaster for at least trying to address our brutal center situation. Clearly he's serious about improving this team, and I like that.
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02-28-2013, 07:54 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by North East Goon
We are officially the Kevin Lowe run Flames, what a joke. Good job improving a divisional rival.
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how?
they ended up paying him more than they wanted to, and have to in years 3/4 after the 2 year deal as well
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02-28-2013, 07:57 PM
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First Line Centre
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There are plenty of ways to get around tampering, guaranteed the Flames will let it slip indirectly to Getzlaf's agent that they would love to have him in Calgary.
That's probably the next move. Hoping that the Flames don't now trade that 1st for a player inferior to O'Reilly in desperation.
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02-28-2013, 07:58 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by nfotiu
I got to agree this hurt the Avs. They could have signed him to this same offer 3 weeks ago if it is what they thought was best for their organization. We helped them in the short run, but hurt them long term. Especially the QO effect.
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Well, the Avs get him for the same price we were going to and keep their 1st rounder. If it is a bad deal for them, it was a terrible deal for us.
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02-28-2013, 07:58 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buck Murdock
This kinda bugs me...the whole reason you do this is because YOU WANT THE PLAYER. So you need to make sure you get the player. You know you're over-paying because you're just buying the player. Why not make the offer one that garantees you win? Some people are patting Feaster on the back, but I can't help thinking he screwed this up....
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NM, already answered.
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02-28-2013, 08:00 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I thnk Feaster has a back up plan in place. Just cannot got out and swing for one without having something to back up on if the try failed.
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02-28-2013, 08:00 PM
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#57
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by North East Goon
We are officially the Kevin Lowe run Flames, what a joke. Good job improving a divisional rival.
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You've had a long day. Take the rest of the night off, why don't you?
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02-28-2013, 08:00 PM
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#58
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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noOOO we lost Piskula as we could have just claimed McGratton off waivers! damn you feaster!!
but yay we still hve our first to trade to the Wild for Clutterbuck
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02-28-2013, 08:01 PM
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by Red John
There are plenty of ways to get around tampering, guaranteed the Flames will let it slip indirectly to Getzlaf's agent that they would love to have him in Calgary.
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Yeah, this is pretty standard and happens all the time.
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02-28-2013, 08:02 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dammage79
To be fair, Evey big name UFA the Rangers have signed outside of Messier has sucked hot air there.
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What're you talking about? The messier signing was horrible for the Rangers. They didn't make the playoffs any of the years he was there after they signed him as a UFA. He even guaranteed that they'd make the playoffs and no one ever brings up that failed guarantee.
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