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View Poll Results: What do you think the Avs will do?
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Avs match, keep O'Reilly
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Avs don't match, take the picks
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02-28-2013, 08:47 PM
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#1081
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Things ended up turing terrible for the Avs as they lose an important player for 1/3 of the season because they didn't want to pay him and now then end up paying him more than they would have had to had they not played the games they seem to do with their free agents and again they didn't have him for 1/3 of the season.
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Yup, being cheap cost the Avs a million more a year.
Dummies. Winning franchises can lowball their best young players and hope they stay, not draft lottery franchises 15 million below cap.
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02-28-2013, 08:47 PM
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#1082
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Yamer
I understand.
Just know I can't get on board with being OK with Flames losses. It seems so counter-intuitive.
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It's never to be okay with liking losing however it's okay to get on board with the process of taking a step back in hopes of taking two steps forward in the future. It's still going to happen regardless of if the Avs matched or not as this team has too many older players in key positions.
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02-28-2013, 08:47 PM
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#1083
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Jesus. This is what i get for not being on the internet all day. I missed the drama!
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02-28-2013, 08:48 PM
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#1084
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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I applaud Feaster's efforts but he can't just try to address the dire center situation with homeruns. He needs to try and make smaller moves as well.
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02-28-2013, 08:49 PM
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#1085
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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After I heard the news they matched it felt like someone ripped out my heart stepped on it than set it on fire....
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02-28-2013, 08:49 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Feaster clearly had a plan. He though Cervenka would be a top 6, and Backlund would be a top 6, and Stajan a top 9. Cervenka is struggling, Backlund is injured and Stajan is playing like a top 6. So he's trying to go out and get O'Rielly.
To those people who think the 1st rounder was an overpayment, how bad do you think the flames are? The defense is playing amazing - Brodie, JayBo and Wideman are all beating my expectations, and if Brodie keeps improving, by the end of the season we will have one of the best top 4 in the league.
The team is .500 without Kipper or Backlund, and just 1 centre in the entire line-up. Iggy is just getting into form, and they were having to adjust to a new coach. I honestly think this team is one centre away from being a contender for the cup - not a favorite, but a solid contender.
Top 4 defense would be top 4 anywhere in the league. Top 4 wingers - Cammy, Iggy, Hudler, Tangs are top 4 anywhere in the league. Glencross and Stempniak are top 9 anywhere in the league. Backlund looked like a top 6. This team isn't that bad - they just have no centres. One player can make a huge difference if its a top 2 centre and you don't even have 2 centres on your roster.
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02-28-2013, 08:50 PM
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#1087
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This gets better after knowing Darren Dreger was wrong. I love when that egomaniac is wrong.
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02-28-2013, 08:50 PM
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#1088
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Originally Posted by Young-Sneezy
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lol
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
In the end, I'm glad Feaster wasn't afraid to make this kind of move. He has balls. He doesn't care what the media or anyone thinks of him. He tried to make a move that would help the team today and the future.
Unlike our neighbours to the north.
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? The Oilers made an OS twice.
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02-28-2013, 08:50 PM
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#1089
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Geneseo, NY
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That was a gutsy and potentially franchise changing move. None of us know how it would have played out but I for one was excited about the role of the dice here and am pleased to know that Feaster is looking to make big moves. Signing ROR was a chance worth taking.
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02-28-2013, 08:51 PM
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#1090
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
It's never to be okay with liking losing however it's okay to get on board with the process of taking a step back in hopes of taking two steps forward in the future. It's still going to happen regardless of if the Avs matched or not as this team has too many older players in key positions.
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Change of direction is inevitable. Still, even if they go into full rebuild mode and sell off their top-end talent I will be tuning in every game expecting and cheering for wins.
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02-28-2013, 08:53 PM
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#1091
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Phanuthier
lol
? The Oilers made an OS twice.
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There is a slight difference in that the Oilers pounced in July trying to poach while the Flames made an offer to a player that was at a long stalemate with a player that looked like no resolution coming. At the end of the day the Flames are still trying to poach but it's not like they didn't give the Avalanch ample time to sign the guy.
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02-28-2013, 08:53 PM
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#1092
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by macrov
Feaster clearly had a plan. He though Cervenka would be a top 6, and Backlund would be a top 6, and Stajan a top 9. Cervenka is struggling, Backlund is injured and Stajan is playing like a top 6. So he's trying to go out and get O'Rielly.
To those people who think the 1st rounder was an overpayment, how bad do you think the flames are? The defense is playing amazing - Brodie, JayBo and Wideman are all beating my expectations, and if Brodie keeps improving, by the end of the season we will have one of the best top 4 in the league.
The team is .500 without Kipper or Backlund, and just 1 centre in the entire line-up. Iggy is just getting into form, and they were having to adjust to a new coach. I honestly think this team is one centre away from being a contender for the cup - not a favorite, but a solid contender.
Top 4 defense would be top 4 anywhere in the league. Top 4 wingers - Cammy, Iggy, Hudler, Tangs are top 4 anywhere in the league. Glencross and Stempniak are top 9 anywhere in the league. Backlund looked like a top 6. This team isn't that bad - they just have no centres. One player can make a huge difference if its a top 2 centre and you don't even have 2 centres on your roster.
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Huffing, beer pong or smoking?
Have you seen Chicago, Anaheim, LA, or Pittsburg play. We are not even close in talent. Yes a top end center will help but this team is multiple pieces away from being a top contender.
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02-28-2013, 08:54 PM
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#1093
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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I wonder what would have happened if the Flames had offered something like 5 years and 35-40 million.
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02-28-2013, 08:54 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Section 120
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Quote:
Originally Posted by macrov
Feaster clearly had a plan. He though Cervenka would be a top 6, and Backlund would be a top 6, and Stajan a top 9. Cervenka is struggling, Backlund is injured and Stajan is playing like a top 6. So he's trying to go out and get O'Rielly.
To those people who think the 1st rounder was an overpayment, how bad do you think the flames are? The defense is playing amazing - Brodie, JayBo and Wideman are all beating my expectations, and if Brodie keeps improving, by the end of the season we will have one of the best top 4 in the league.
The team is .500 without Kipper or Backlund, and just 1 centre in the entire line-up. Iggy is just getting into form, and they were having to adjust to a new coach. I honestly think this team is one centre away from being a contender for the cup - not a favorite, but a solid contender.
Top 4 defense would be top 4 anywhere in the league. Top 4 wingers - Cammy, Iggy, Hudler, Tangs are top 4 anywhere in the league. Glencross and Stempniak are top 9 anywhere in the league. Backlund looked like a top 6. This team isn't that bad - they just have no centres. One player can make a huge difference if its a top 2 centre and you don't even have 2 centres on your roster.
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I agree with you. This team has been bad the last few years so everyone has run out of patience. This year seems to be different in terms of compete level and skill throughout the lineup.
I still believe they can make a run in the playoffs. Cup contender might be a bit of a stretch though.
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02-28-2013, 08:56 PM
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#1095
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Phanuthier
lol
? The Oilers made an OS twice.
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I'm talking about since they started their rebuild (which was 2010 according to Oil fans).
Has there been a team more timid, more afraid to make a move than the Oilers these past 3 years? They are a team that is afraid to make a trade that makes the team better in fear of negative public perception. They are a fantasy hockey team created by fan majority opinion. The biggest move they've made in the last 3 years is signing Ryan Smyth.
Also, Tambellini wasn't GM when the Oilers offer sheet'd Penner.
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02-28-2013, 08:57 PM
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
I wonder what would have happened if the Flames had offered something like 5 years and 35-40 million.
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They would have been laughing stock of the league for 5+ years.
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02-28-2013, 09:00 PM
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#1097
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by macrov
Feaster clearly had a plan. He though Cervenka would be a top 6, and Backlund would be a top 6, and Stajan a top 9. Cervenka is struggling, Backlund is injured and Stajan is playing like a top 6. So he's trying to go out and get O'Rielly.
To those people who think the 1st rounder was an overpayment, how bad do you think the flames are? The defense is playing amazing - Brodie, JayBo and Wideman are all beating my expectations, and if Brodie keeps improving, by the end of the season we will have one of the best top 4 in the league.
The team is .500 without Kipper or Backlund, and just 1 centre in the entire line-up. Iggy is just getting into form, and they were having to adjust to a new coach. I honestly think this team is one centre away from being a contender for the cup - not a favorite, but a solid contender.
Top 4 defense would be top 4 anywhere in the league. Top 4 wingers - Cammy, Iggy, Hudler, Tangs are top 4 anywhere in the league. Glencross and Stempniak are top 9 anywhere in the league. Backlund looked like a top 6. This team isn't that bad - they just have no centres. One player can make a huge difference if its a top 2 centre and you don't even have 2 centres on your roster.
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The top 4 defencemen and wingers aren't close to the top 4 in each area for the teams in league.
Maybe if that center is Crosby there might be a chance but this team is a lot more than a center away from competing.
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02-28-2013, 09:00 PM
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#1098
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vancouver, B.C
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Originally Posted by BEANZ
Huffing, beer pong or smoking?
Have you seen Chicago, Anaheim, LA, or Pittsburg play. We are not even close in talent. Yes a top end center will help but this team is multiple pieces away from being a top contender.
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No #### put the crack pipe down. He would have made us better down the middle but there's no way we are contenders. There has been nothing for me to believe that this team has turned the corner and started to play great hockey on a consistant basis. Given everything thats happened yes we've exceded expectations by not being the bottom dwellers of the leaugue.
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02-28-2013, 09:01 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
I wonder what would have happened if the Flames had offered something like 5 years and 35-40 million.
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We couldn't. We don't have our own 2nd rounder next year.
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/20...e-offer-sheets
$1,110,249 or below - No Compensation
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 - 3rd round pick
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 - 2nd round pick
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 - 1st round pick, 3rd
Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 - 1st round pick, 2nd, 3rd
Over $6,728,781 To $8,410,976 - Two 1st Round Picks, 2nd, 3rd
Over $8,410,976 - Four 1st Round Picks
We were right at the upper end of the 1st and a 3rd category.
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02-28-2013, 09:02 PM
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#1100
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That sucks. Exactly the type of player we need and he could have helped now and for years down the road. F U Sherman.
Well, at least we still have our picks.
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