[News] Flames offersheet O'Reilly UPDATE: Avs match

[Ashasx]

People are actually concerned about a $6.5M qualifying offer in 2 years? Do people even know how RFAs work?

If the Flames qualify ROR in 2 years, yes, it will cost 6.5M per season.

But you DON'T HAVE TO QUALIFY AN RFA. You can simply re-sign players. The Flames will NOT be forced to pay ROR 6.5M.

Remember how it would have cost $2.5M to qualify Comeau this summer? How come that never happened?

I hope ROR plays to the quality of a $6.5M player in 2 years time, so I'd have no issue giving him that.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by M*A*S*H 4077

Avs are my other favorite team as I grew up watching them. O'Reilly has been one of my favorite players the past few years, it's disappointing that Avalanche management constantly plays hard ball with their young players in contract situations. That said, O'Reilly is absolutely not worth 6.5M and I would be surprised if he ever develops into a player that is worth that. He will be a very good NHLer but I don't see him with the offensive upside to be a #1C. Avs chose Landeskog over O'Reilly for captain, take the picks and run.

I would have to seriously consider getting an O'Reilly jersey if he does become a Flame

A fifty point 21 year old center who actually plays center isn't even scratching the surface of what he can accomplish in this league at this point. His cap hit will be 5m, they had to do something to prevent the avalanche from just matching it without question.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I added a poll.

Vote on what you think the Avs will do, not what you hope they do.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by browna

Timing is very curious...why not in 12-18 hours, after you play that team? Because the Canucks had one out there too?

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For all we know, the Flames made the offer a while ago and O'Reilly waited until now to accept it.

[JJsChaos]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

A 22 year old putting up 50 points is different than a 28 year old putting up 50 points. The 22 year old is figuring out the game more and more every year he plays, and he's only getting better. You don't become a 50 point player in the NHL at 22 and peak. Putting up 50 points at 22 and winning face offs means you're dealing with a number one centre.

Three years from now, when our centres are RoR, Janko, Backlund and Horak, we will be in the best shape we've been in 25 years.

I sure hope you are right and I'm wrong

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by sun

In the past two decades, who have the Flames picked in the first round that is better than O'Reilly? Phaneuf at one point? Hopefully Sven and Jankowski?

A bird in hand is worth 18 in the bush.

People citing the incompetence of the Flames drafting as a legitimization for the offer sheet seems strangely alarming...

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by JayP

I'd be surprised if the Flames don't try and get an extension signed before next season. Give him the rest of this year to prove he's worth the long-term deal.

Yea. Guy that is holding out for more money will give the Flames a deal in his next contract and not see $6.8 as a starting point? Hahaha.

Good luck with that.

He'll have all the leverage. The Flames will have to offer him a QO because they gave up a first and third for 100 games of his play. If they don't he can walk and sign with whoever he wants.

If I were a Flames fan I'd be begging for the Avalanche to match this. $6.8 a season for O'Reilly is a terrible contract that will screw up their salary structure for years.

[Enoch Root]

So if it turns out to be a top 5 pick, people will be pissed - naturally.

But what if the Flames make the playoffs - where would this move rank then?

[CaptainCrunch]

To me if the Flames get him, I see them competing for a playoff spot especially if Backlund comes back playing as well as he did we suddenly would have decent center strength and be very young up the middle.

Tanguay ROR Iginla

Glencross Stajan Hudler

Bart Backlund Stemp

Not bad scoring depth

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

People are actually concerned about a $6.5M qualifying offer in 2 years? Do people even know how RFAs work?

If the Flames qualify ROR in 2 years, yes, it will cost 6.5M per season.

But you DON'T HAVE TO QUALIFY AN RFA. You can simply re-sign players. The Flames will NOT be forced to pay ROR 6.5M.

Remember how it would have cost $2.5M to qualify Comeau this summer? How come that never happened?

I hope ROR plays to the quality of a $6.5M player in 2 years time, so I'd have no issue giving him that.

Can't thank, but quoted for truth. Didn't know that the shortened form of that was swearing...

[Rudee]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

A 22 year old putting up 50 points is different than a 28 year old putting up 50 points. The 22 year old is figuring out the game more and more every year he plays, and he's only getting better. You don't become a 50 point player in the NHL at 22 and peak. Putting up 50 points at 22 and winning face offs means you're dealing with a number one centre.

Three years from now, when our centres are RoR, Janko, Backlund and Horak, we will be in the best shape we've been in 25 years.

C'mon now. He had one breakout season with 55 points. He had 26 points in both seasons prior that. Doesn't mean he's going to be a top line center and be able to produce those numbers consistently. He's a huge gamble at $6.5 million and at the cost of a 1st and 3rd round pick. Huge!

[JJsChaos]

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

You were suggesting it's a given. It's far from that.

It's a calculated risk for sure, but if it's not a top five pick (which is more likely at this point) adding O'Reilly is a huge pickup.

There is just no need for you to take the more unlikely outcome and cast judgement using it like it's factual.

Once again, I hope you're right and I'm way off on this one.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Dean Molberg ‏@fan960boomer If the Flames DO get O'Reilly, could be a scramble to get under cap next season. Compliance buy out almost assured somewhere.


Good point by boomer, Flames may buyout someone this summer to get under the cap for next season.

Nope. Stajan is an easy trade with his improved play and front loaded contract. Bring Iginla back at a discount. We'd be set.

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by EddyBeers

How big of an impact do Flames fans think a guy who has played 12 games in the last 11 months will have on the Flames chances in the final 27 games of the season?

Better than having one natural centre in our lineup -as is- as we currently sit 3 points out of the playoffs?

Your attitude toward this move is a real shocker.

[flamesaresmokin]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

How about Iggy signs elsewhere? This move is not a 'get Jarome a center' play. This is a 'we can't win a championship without at least two excellent centres. Here's one' play. We get another good year of development from Backlund and Jankowski, and we're that much closer to true contention. But it's going to be without Jarome. He just doesn't have the time left.

This is all about Iginla.

Right or wrong, the Flames/Feaster are still clearly thinking he can take this team to a cup. Hence why he's done this. If he didn't think so this trade wouldn't have happened.

[Miniac]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

So, at that point we could look at it as:

In: O'Reilly

Out: Cammaleri, 1st rounder (like top 10) and 3rd rounder

It also essentially takes us out of the free agent market next year.

Sorry off topic but Cammaleri gets us nothing?

[pepper24]

This exactly falls in the line with the Flames mirroring the Leafs.

[JurassicTunga12]

Vancouver Canucks also issued an offer-sheet but O'Reilly signed the Flames one instead.

Dan Tencer ‏@dantencer
Sportsnet 960 Calgary reports that the Vancouver Canucks also issued an offer sheet to Ryan O'Reilly.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Anduril

I'd still see Stajan as a trade target. He'll only have one year and is able to move throughout the line. Attractive with a lower salary at about $2.5M I believe.

I agree.

As soon as Backlund is back, Stajan becomes a good trade candidate

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Watching Dreger on TV, he sure sounds like he thinks the Avs will take the picks.

I think they'll take the picks as well. Guess we'll find out in a week.