[News] Flames offersheet O'Reilly UPDATE: Avs match

[LGA]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

So which center is more coveted and has higher potential?

Ryan O'Reilly or Matt Duschene?

Duchene has way more natural talent and skill, and has been absolutely fantastic this season. I take Duchene all day every day.

[flamesaresmokin]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

My guess is Cammy. Too inconsistent and not worth $6 mil! He should give some of that to iggy.

How about Iggy signs for a fair value? If he takes a 4-5M contract that makes a huge difference in payroll.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by BintonB

I don't get why he didn't make this around the range of a 5 year contract? What happens if he leaves 2 years from now

He can't. RFA for another 2 years.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin

How about Iggy signs for a fair value? If he takes a 4-5M contract that makes a huge difference in payroll.

That will happen too but i'm pretty sure camel larry is toast. Unless he totally turns this season around.

[Ice_Weasel]

Originally Posted by BintonB

I don't get why he didn't make this around the range of a 5 year contract? What happens if he leaves 2 years from now

Deal was likley structured to improve the chance that Colorado does not match. A 5yr deal at $5m would be a no brainer for Colorado. Feaster takes the risk that he can extend versus Colorada matching a paying $6.5 to just lose him in 2 years (which they may given the animosity of the current situation).

[kirant]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Avs won't match, Calgary's #1 pick ends up winning the lottery and becomes the #1 overall pick. I can't even imagine what this place would be like if that happened.

Remember the Flames giving up Teravainen to recoup some picks? Imagine that, but for an entire year.

[flamesaresmokin]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

6.5 million dollars for Ryan O'Reilly?

My god Feaster really is an idiot, this confirms it.

I'm as big of a Feaster critic as they come - no point in submitting an offer sheet at market or fair value. You have to go over the top so the other team doesn't match.

If he fails to sign him long term at a fair amount, that's when he's dropped the ball.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Agreed. When you look at who we have under contract for next year, Cammalleri is the obvious buy-out candidate. Unless you can move him in some fashion at the deadline or draft.

Cammaleri and Stajan are the obvious buy outs. Bouwmeester is the obvious trade target.

Not worried about it.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by sun

In the past two decades, who have the Flames picked in the first round that is better than O'Reilly? Phaneuf at one point? Hopefully Sven and Jankowski?

A bird in hand is worth 18 in the bush.

On the draft picks, I agree. If we chose a Ryan O'Reilly with our first round pick, people would be estatic.

It's the salary cost that really makes things interesting.

[keratosis]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

hahahah, effen Flames fans.

"I want this to happen!"
it happened!
"...I feel sick"

Again. Wish I could thank from tapatalk.

[kipperfan]

And with regards to when we might find out, my thinking is that if the Avs are not going to match they will, of course, wait until the final hour to make that announcement. But if they are going to match, I would guess they do so fairly quickly. They are going to be committed to keeping O'Reilly on the team for at least the next full year so they might as well get him on the roster ASAP and also waiting until the last minute and then matching might (assumption on my part) further the bad blood between O'Reilly and the organization.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Otto29

I think it's a good move personally but you have to wonder who will be leaving.

Draft picks + Calgary Flames = Bigger gamble than this.

I agree. If this goes down there is going to be more trades from the flames. Either Cammi or Stempniak are going to have to go. Flames did not do this just to be a 9th -10 th team.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by sun

In the past two decades, who have the Flames picked in the first round that is better than O'Reilly? Phaneuf at one point? Hopefully Sven and Jankowski?

A bird in hand is worth 18 in the bush.

Your all over the place man..

02-28-2013, 04:07 PM #276sun
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lol watch O'Reilly elevate us to 9th place and then Avs win the draft lottery with our pick.

[Husky]

No big deal about salary cost. If the Flames keep Iginla his salary will be lower. Kipper is most likely off the books. A ton of other players are off the books etc.

[JJsChaos]

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

Sorry, you don't have it straight.

You are failing to get the chances we will end up with that high of a pick are unlikely at present, nevermind when adding Kipper and O'Reilly.

Have not enough GMs been made an example of relying on this mentality? You're failing to see our schedule get much harder. If this turns into a top five pick, this will be remember by Flames fans for decades. We've never had a top 5 pick.

[polak]

Originally Posted by BigJim

I'm wondering if there isn't a plan to recoup that 1st (and perhaps more) between now and the trade deadline? Although I haven't done the math, the Flames have to get under the new cap for next year, which likely means moving one or more of Iginla (as I doubt they'd let him walk for nothing) Cammalleri or Bouwmeester.

Doesn't make sense to trade anyone good if we don't have our 1st anymore.

They're going for it.

and I hate them for it.

[josef]

regardless of the outcome i like the move, pisses all those german avs´s fans off big time..
but with the flames luck, we´ll miss the playoff´s and win the draft lottery

[superfarmer]

Originally Posted by SHOGUN

The guy only had one 50 point season...

wow. He's 22.

[BintonB]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Steinberg was just talking about this on the Fan. But it seems that with the Olympics, the deadline will be in March if 06 and 2010 are any indication.

I thought you meant the Avs as a franchise can't trade but just O'Reilly

[trackercowe]

Smells like the Phil Kessel trade. We'll finish in the bottom 5, win the lottery then the Avs will get to take Drouin or Barkiv. Not a fan of this at all.