View Poll Results: What do you think the Avs will do?
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Avs match, keep O'Reilly
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Avs don't match, take the picks
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02-28-2013, 03:44 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CedarMeter
99.9% sure they'll match.
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I'm not so sure since this deal ensures a qualifying offer of $6,825,000 to keep O'Reilly as a RFA in 2015
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Not sure the guy is as good as others seem to think he is. I've often viewed him as a great 3rd line centre, a good 2nd line centre but not a top line centre.
If that 1st ends up being top 5 - dear lord.
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I agree with the 1st part.
But the 2nd, I am not concerned about that. We aren't bottom 5 without Kipper and O'Reilly. To think we would get help offensively, defensively, in faceoffs and the PK (this is where Kipper helps us the most), I think it is extremely unlikely we fall in the standings.
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02-28-2013, 03:44 PM
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#102
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First Line Centre
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Jesus just looking at the Jets he would make more than any of our players next year if this happens. He'd be the highest flame too no?
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02-28-2013, 03:44 PM
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#103
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Here
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I can see the Avs sign him and then trade him in the off season.
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02-28-2013, 03:44 PM
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#104
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Lifetime Suspension
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Avs match
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02-28-2013, 03:45 PM
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#105
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First Line Centre
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I don't understand how anyone could hate this.
Besides Baertschi and that's still a maybe - when's the last time we had a first rounder with his upside?
I'd gladly pay a first and third for a centreman that's had success at this level.
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02-28-2013, 03:45 PM
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#106
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by PegCityFlamesFan
Jesus just looking at the Jets he would make more than any of our players next year if this happens. He'd be the highest flame too no?
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This guy is going to be under an insane amount of pressure for a 21 year old who isn't projected to be a high-impact first line player.
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02-28-2013, 03:45 PM
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#107
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I feel like Al Davis has come back to life and is now running the Calgary Flames.
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Why? Because this is a great potential move?
Jeepers creepers people. Where are our young centres? Oh, right here, but lets bitch about this too...
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02-28-2013, 03:45 PM
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#108
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Kidder
Not a fan of this move.
Once again we're attempting to delay the inevitable rebuild. And in a year we could be drafting in the top five for the first time in... ever?
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He's 21... and more of a sure thing than any future draft pick. I understand not wanting to lose draft picks, but this IS a move for the future
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02-28-2013, 03:45 PM
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#109
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Avs match
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Source?
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02-28-2013, 03:45 PM
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#110
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Not cheering for losses
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Originally Posted by Kidder
Not a fan of this move.
Once again we're attempting to delay the inevitable rebuild. And in a year we could be drafting in the top five for the first time in... ever?
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Flames delaying rebuild by signing a 22 year old C?
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02-28-2013, 03:46 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by calgARI
Those who have speculated that Feaster isn't 'in' with other GM's and this has made things challenging for him...this move will only alienate the organization further.
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Who cares, alienate every other gm in the division. It's not like they ever make trades with each other anyway, might as well try and improve yourself.
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02-28-2013, 03:46 PM
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#112
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NOT a cool kid
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Love it
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02-28-2013, 03:46 PM
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#113
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First Line Centre
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Torn on this... love the ballsy move by Feaster, but not sure that he's the guy (another 2C?)
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02-28-2013, 03:46 PM
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#114
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie OK, here's everything you need to know about the CGY offer sheet on Ryan O'Reilly:
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
COL has 7 days to match the offer or accept compensation of CGY's 1st round pick and CGY's 3rd round pick.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie If COL matches the offer, COL cannot trade O'Reilly for one calendar year from day it matches the offer.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie Structure of deal designed to deter COL. That includes getting a $2.5M signing bonus now and a really low salary ($1M) rest of season.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie Kicker, tho, is $6.5M salary next season. Ignoring ROR's arb rights, COL would have to qualify him at $6.5M upon expiry of this deal.
Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger A very aggressive move by the Flames. However, other GM's suggest Colorado could have fetched more than a 1st and 3rd via trade.
The question about whether Avs match or not depends on how much they stick to their principles on what Salary of RFA without arbitratraion rights should be
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02-28-2013, 03:46 PM
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#115
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by Kidder
Not a fan of this move.
Once again we're attempting to delay the inevitable rebuild. And in a year we could be drafting in the top five for the first time in... ever?
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I'm not thrilled with the move either, but adding a 21-year old center who has already put up 55 points is hardly counter to a "rebuild".
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02-28-2013, 03:46 PM
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#116
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: DeWinton
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Originally Posted by neo45
They aren't going to match. Look at how he is getting paid, he is getting 2.5 mil RIGHT AWAY and 6.5 next year.
ROR is now a Flame guys. If Colorado matches I'll be shocked
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Ya, thought about it some more and that's a lot of ducats..You might be right.
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02-28-2013, 03:46 PM
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#117
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Lifetime Suspension
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C'mon guys...everyone has to at least admit, never a freakin' dull moment being a Flames fan...lol.
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02-28-2013, 03:46 PM
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#118
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Has O'Reilly actually accepted the Flames offer?
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Yes, wouldn't be filed if it didn't have his name on it. I think it happens... Flames pick could be high and that 2nd year will cause them pause. Don't see the Aves matching unless they really really really want to keep him out of the division and have an acceptable trade alternative..
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02-28-2013, 03:46 PM
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#119
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by ah123
I can see the Avs sign him and then trade him in the off season.
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Doesn't it have to be a calendar year they have to hold him? That was the issue with Weber, since all his bonus money would be paid out by the time they could trade him
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02-28-2013, 03:46 PM
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#120
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Avs match
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Im not so sure, the avs no he doesn't want to play in colorado. If they match it, they have to trade him. And who will want to take on that salary.
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