Trade deadline day you be the GM

[Caged Great]

If we are in 9th or below on April 3rd and the Flames do not sell, the upper management is blind and getting in the way, ruining our ability to complete. If we are going for playoff miss #4 in a row and they don't do anything, then the Flames fans should do the only thing they have the power to do and that is to stop watching/supporting the team entirely until they actually start doing the proper things.

[North East Goon]

If we are close to a playoff spot, not a chance ownership will allow a sell-off. I personally would want them to think long term picture on any deals from here on out, ownership would see it very very different.

[FAN]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

If we are in 9th or below on April 3rd and the Flames do not sell, the upper management is blind and getting in the way, ruining our ability to complete.

Well what if the team is in 9th and 1 point out of 8th?

Originally Posted by North East Goon

If we are close to a playoff spot, not a chance ownership will allow a sell-off. I personally would want them to think long term picture on any deals from here on out, ownership would see it very very different.

Well I don't think Feaster will trade away a big piece of the future for a rental player. I'm just hoping that if Feaster is going to move a 2nd or a 3rd he moves it for a player that might be here next year.

[indes]

Sell, Sell, Sell! Get as many picks/prospects/gritty players as you can

[switzsvensation]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Unless this team FIRMLY HOLDS a playoff position at the deadline, I'd trade key components as bidding wars heat up. Iginla, Kiprusoff, Giordano and Tanguay would all be on the table.

...if the flames are in this position at the trade deadline and don't make trades geared towards making the team better "tomorrow", I'll likely lose my mind and be placed in some sort of cushioned cell. It can't happen again. They can't stand still at the deadline again, it would prove them to be the most incompetent management team in the league.

I agree completely. I would even add a couple names like Bouwmeester and Cammalleri to the trade block. Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling that ownership won't allow a complete sell off

[Canada 02]

I'll be curious to see if anyone is willing to trade for Flames players with high salary and term.

will someone take Cammi's $6M for next season? Tanguay's got 3 more years at $3.5M
As well as Stajan has played this season, will a team risk him for another season at $3.5M?

Likewise, Bouwmeester has a big number; Gio has term

not easy contracts to move

most everyone else not named Kipper or Iggy or is young player isn't worth a much

I guess I can see Stempniak being moved. Any of Babchuk, Sarich, Smith or Butler. Even Joey Macdonald could be moved to a team looking for goalie depth

[indes]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

I'll be curious to see if anyone is willing to trade for Flames players with high salary and term.

will someone take Cammi's $6M for next season? Tanguay's got 3 more years at $3.5M
As well as Stajan has played this season, will a team risk him for another season at $3.5M?

Likewise, Bouwmeester has a big number; Gio has term

not easy contracts to move

most everyone else not named Kipper or Iggy or is young player isn't worth a much

I guess I can see Stempniak being moved. Any of Babchuk, Sarich, Smith or Butler. Even Joey Macdonald could be moved to a team looking for goalie depth

I agree it is pretty big salary, in the new CBA we can however hold back some salary as well. Any of those players with a couple mill shaved off could fetch some very good returns

[neo45]

If the Flames are in 9th place, I hate to break it to everybody but nobody is going anywhere. Maybe Comeau, Babchuk, Jones, and Abbotsford players are moved for low draft picks as they can provide depth.

Iginla, if he hasn't signed an extension, is an interesting option. I would hate to lose him for nothing but I don't see ownership moving him if we are within 4 points of playoffs.

Pretty much, prepare to be dissapointed again.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by neo45

If the Flames are in 9th place, I hate to break it to everybody but nobody is going anywhere. Maybe Comeau, Babchuk, Jones, and Abbotsford players are moved for low draft picks as they can provide depth.

Iginla, if he hasn't signed an extension, is an interesting option. I would hate to lose him for nothing but I don't see ownership moving him if we are within 4 points of playoffs.

Pretty much, prepare to be dissapointed again.

Sadly i have to agree with this post. My gut tells me that the flames have to be 6+ points out of it by the deadline for ownership to agree to become sellers.

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by indes

I agree it is pretty big salary, in the new CBA we can however hold back some salary as well. Any of those players with a couple mill shaved off could fetch some very good returns

sounds like an interesting thing for fans and media to talk about, but I'm skeptical how much this will be used - it will be interesting to see if there are many owners willing to pay a player to play for someone else; also, are their GMs willing to eat cap space, especially with the cap going down next season

what salary would make Cammaleri's contract palatable? $3.5M? $4M? Is ownership willing to retain $2-3M in exchange for say a 2nd round pick? I doubt the Flames would. Maybe the top 3 or 4 revenue teams (Leafs, Rangers, Bruins, Hawks)

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

sounds like an interesting thing for fans and media to talk about, but I'm skeptical how much this will be used - it will be interesting to see if there are many owners willing to pay a player to play for someone else; also, are their GMs willing to eat cap space, especially with the cap going down next season

what salary would make Cammaleri's contract palatable? $3.5M? $4M? Is ownership willing to retain $2-3M in exchange for say a 2nd round pick? I doubt the Flames would. Maybe the top 3 or 4 revenue teams (Leafs, Rangers, Bruins, Hawks)

The only team I see not wanting Cammy at $4 mil is the Habs

[Bourque's Twin]

If the Flames are out of contention I would want them to trade Cammalleri, Bouwmeester, Stempniak, and Kipper.

[AltaGuy]

I actually think the one major move we will make at the deadline is to trade Bouwmeester. He has been terrific for us this season, but I bet we get a 2C and a 4/5Dman back for him (maybe a pick too).

After all, if management's goal is to make the playoffs at all costs, this is the move you make.

[Vinny01]

Here is how I would change the team (probably way off in terms of value).

Trade 1

To Blues: Iginla, Butler, Backlund, Babchuk, Comeau/Jackman
To Flames: Stewart, Rattie, Cole, 1st 2013

Iggy gets to play for a deep talented team, Butler gets to go to his hometown team as a nice fill in. Backlund gets to play with Bergland to see if they can get the chemistry they had during the lockout.
Flames get a good RW that can play today only 25 years old, get a top RW prospect, get a potential top 4 dman and a first round pick. Hate to give up Backlund but getting Rattie, Cole and the first plus Stewart who can help now is going to cost more than just Iggy.

Trade 2

To Flyers: Curtis Glencross, Jay Bouwmeester (retain 50% of his salary)
To Flames: Schenn brothers 2nd round pick

Flames get a future top 6 center possibly a number 1 and a guy that can be a big mean 2nd pairing shutdown Dman. They give up Glencross who seems to fit the Flyers current plan and Bouwmeester who is a needed #1 Dman for Philly.

Trade 3:

To Blackhawks: Kipper, Stempniak, Sarich/Smith (Flames retain some salary)
To Flames: Emery, Hjalmersson, 1st

Hawks bring in a top goalie to solidify their team moving forward. They add some depth at forward and downgrade at D
Flames get a first round pick, top 4 Dman who is 26 and a backup goalie to fill in for the rest of the year.

Trade 4
To Avs: Stajan, Blues 1st, Granlund
To Flames: O'Rielly

Flames get a top 6 forward using 1 of their acquired firsts, decent prospects and sell high on Stajan. The Avs get a first, prospect, and player than can help right now. They also cash in on $2.5M actual $ but $3.5M cap hit for Stajan.

New Flames next year

Tanguay-O'Rielly-Hudler
Cammy-Schenn-Stewart
Sven-MacKinnon/Barkov/Monahan-Rattie
Bouma-Reinhart-Jackman

Gio-Wideman
Hjalmmerson-Brodie
Schenn-Cole

Ramo
Emery/MacDonald

I bet my trades are off but that is a team that can challenge for a playoff spot next year in my opinion as they have a decent mix of youth and veterans and add some significant grit.

[dammage79]

Lyle Richardson is speculating right now that the Rangers may have to buy out Brad Richards Contract at the end of this season. With 4 RFA;s coming up to be re-signed and ten million in cap space to do this and tinker with the roster, they may have to. Not sure how many teams could take on Richards 6.7m a year cap hit but one would think there would be a couple takers.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Lyle Richardson is speculating right now that the Rangers may have to buy out Brad Richards Contract at the end of this season. With 4 RFA;s coming up to be re-signed and ten million in cap space to do this and tinker with the roster, they may have to. Not sure how many teams could take on Richards 6.7m a year cap hit but one would think there would be a couple takers.

They wouldn't have to buy him out. All they have to do is call Feaster and a deal would be done. Not saying that is the way to go, but Feaster would jump all over that.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Lyle Richardson is speculating right now that the Rangers may have to buy out Brad Richards Contract at the end of this season. With 4 RFA;s coming up to be re-signed and ten million in cap space to do this and tinker with the roster, they may have to. Not sure how many teams could take on Richards 6.7m a year cap hit but one would think there would be a couple takers.

Tampa buys out Vinny, NY buys out Brad, Feaster brings both to Calgary and the Flames have vastly improved center depth.

[dammage79]

Would Brad Richards want to go to the team that was essentially the bridesmaid in his sweepstakes? Would be nice if he waived his NMC to come here. Would make for a solid three centers. Or let them buy him out and hopefully get him on a cheaper cap hit. But then I think his choice would still to be in the east.

As for LeCavalier, does anyone know if their Ownership caould afford to have him bought out? thats a ton of cash to be paying the ex-face of your franchise to not be there anymore.
I don't think they would but that is my opinion.

[Canada 02]

someone calculated the total cost to the Rangers if Richards were to be bought out. It worked out to something north of $46M for two seasons of salary, signing bonuses, plus 2/3rd of what is left of his 9 year contract

[CliffFletcher]

Player / Likely return

Iginla: A-list Prospect + late 1st + conditional 2nd

Kipper: B-list Prospect + 3rd

Bouwmeester: Young roster player with $2 to $3 mil cap hit + 2nd

Cammalleri + 3rd: Young roster player with $3 to $4 mil cap hit

Giordano: B-list Prospect + 2nd