Comcast Philly....Iggy to Philly or Boston

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Schenn is basically a ppg player this season (17 in 19)

and people are thinking Schenn +?

I could see Philly being interested but it's not going to be for Schenn, don't get your hopes up

Yeah I don't understand why Philly would make that deal 1 for 1. Iginla will get a 1st round pick + a good prospect back for sure, but Schenn for Iginla makes absolutely no sense from Philly.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

If the new prospects (or even one really good prospect) can cheaply replace expiring contracts, the Flames could be in good shape quite quickly. In fact, I think a single blue-chip prospect is an absolute must in an Iginla trade - much more so than a first round pick or even two - the Flames need that added certainty.

But I don't think Iginla is going to be moved, I just don't think a cup is a priority for him at this point. I suppose that could work in the Flames' favour: if he's moved, he'll certainly come back to the community that he and his family call home a few months later, which is maybe the best outcome all around. But more likely he signs a sunset contract sometime in the not-too-distant future.

Because of Iginla's stature here I think you have to get a clear fantastic blue chipper AND a 1st.

But I'd be surprised if they dealt him.

[StAlbertFlame]

Originally Posted by KOgear

If we can get what the Blues got, trading a 34 yr old Tkachuk that would be amazing.

ST. LOUIS – St. Louis Blues President John Davidson announced today the team has traded forward Keith Tkachuk to the Atlanta Thrashers in exchange for a first round draft choice in 2007, a third round draft choice in 2007, a second round draft choice in 2008 and forward Glen Metropolit.

In addition, if Atlanta re-signs Tkachuk, the Blues will acquire a first round draft choice in 2008

To bad former Atlanta Thrashers manager Don Waddell isn't still a NHL manager so that he could be fleeced again

[big-bouw]

I think Boston is a good place for Iggy to land.

Boston - Ryan Spooner + Alex Khokhlachev + 2013 1st
Calgary - Jarome Iginla + Chris Butler

Iggy gets to compete on an elite team, Calgary gets some young talent that are on the cusp of playing in the NHL.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

Schenn is basically a ppg player this season (17 in 19)

and people are thinking Schenn +?

I could see Philly being interested but it's not going to be for Schenn, don't get your hopes up

If teams feel that they are in the hunt, and/or have a chance at going all the way, they will pay. Teams like Philadelphia won't be able to afford all their youth when it comes contract time anyway.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Yeah I don't understand why Philly would make that deal 1 for 1. Iginla will get a 1st round pick + a good prospect back for sure, but Schenn for Iginla makes absolutely no sense from Philly.

it's rare that rentals are dealt for guys that are currently contributing, especially guys that look as solid as they come in terms of being a top centre in the league

1st and a prospect makes complete sense

1st and a current top 6 guy doesn't really help the trading team at this point in Iginla's career because they are giving up a 1st for what is likely a marginal replacement

if it was 2-3 years ago it might be somewhat realistic, but not now

[sa226]

Its hard to judge, because we haven't seen Iggy in the playoffs for years.

I still think Iginla has it in him to engage playoff beast mode. I really believe the step Iginla has lost is 1 part physical 2 parts mental.

A fresh start on a new team in the thick of the playoffs would be all he needs. I think he would be incredibly valuable to any team that would trade for him.

If this becomes a reality, Feaster just needs to convince other GMs of that

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by memphusk

If teams feel that they are in the hunt, and/or have a chance at going all the way, they will pay. Teams like Philadelphia won't be able to afford all their youth when it comes contract time anyway.

of course they will pay

but many people would argue Schenn is better than Iginla right now

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by wired

IMO, if I was a GM in the NHL, at this time, I would not even entertain trading ANYTHING for Iggy.
His play has not warrented any significant return. If he had put on an impressive showing so far this season, and the team was still in the basement, then maybe he would be worth something.
But not right now guys, Stajan is worth more than Iggy to this team.

Good thing you're not an NHL GM then, because this is the furthest thing from the truth. NHL GM's are not a bunch of butt hurt fans who want to label a sure thing HOF player as garbage. They know they are getting one of the best players of his generation if they trade for Iginla. Iginla on the right team will still contribute a lot.

[Locke]

Yeah, I think people are being more than a little hopelessly optimistic on any return for Iggy.

First of all, you have to think of rental pricing. They're not getting a 'locked-up to a great contract Iggy' they are getting 'pending UFA 35 year old' Iggy.

If the return was a first rounder that might be reasonable. Maybe a blue-chip prospect. Not both, and even one of those is pretty optimistic in my opinion.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Iggy is not likely getting traded, as I truly do think he does want to finish his career in Calgary and Feaster is not going to be the guy who traded Iginla.

I'm OK with Iginla staying with Flames, I think there are other routes the Flames can take to "rebuild" without dealing Iggy. However I do feel Iginla could still fetch a big return, he is undervalued by some on this board and his skill level is noticeably higher than the other Flames, this is evident night after night.

[taco.vidal]

Philly is interesting. They're willing to pull the trigger on big deals and not afraid to switch things up. Philly is probably more desperate as well. Only worrisome thing is if they're still looking to improve their goal tending and to get rid of Bryz.

[big-bouw]

Originally Posted by Locke

Yeah, I think people are being more than a little hopelessly optimistic on any return for Iggy.

First of all, you have to think of rental pricing. They're not getting a 'locked-up to a great contract Iggy' they are getting 'pending UFA 35 year old' Iggy.

If the return was a first rounder that might be reasonable. Maybe a blue-chip prospect. Not both, and even one of those is pretty optimistic in my opinion.

I totally disagree. Tomas Kaberle was a rental in 2011 got a 1st in 2011 and Joe Colborne the year Boston went all the way. Joe Colborne, albeit not a blue chip, was taken 16th overall in 2010.

Iggy will surely get a 1st and a few solid prospects.

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by Locke

Yeah, I think people are being more than a little hopelessly optimistic on any return for Iggy.

First of all, you have to think of rental pricing. They're not getting a 'locked-up to a great contract Iggy' they are getting 'pending UFA 35 year old' Iggy.

If the return was a first rounder that might be reasonable. Maybe a blue-chip prospect. Not both, and even one of those is pretty optimistic in my opinion.

Sorry but I strongly disagree with this. Paul freakin' Gaustad got a 1st round pick, and you think that's all that Iggy would get too?

[Muta]

Iginla bleeds this franchise and wants to help this team get to great heights; but I hope he knows that moving him for young assets that the franchise can build around is also a method of assistance that helps in the long-term success of this franchise. I would choose to believe that he knows this, he's not a dumb guy.

If we get 1-2 good young assets to add to our future, you'd have to think Iginla, being the professional that he is, would on some level want to be a part of this.

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by Locke

Yeah, I think people are being more than a little hopelessly optimistic on any return for Iggy.

First of all, you have to think of rental pricing. They're not getting a 'locked-up to a great contract Iggy' they are getting 'pending UFA 35 year old' Iggy.

If the return was a first rounder that might be reasonable. Maybe a blue-chip prospect. Not both, and even one of those is pretty optimistic in my opinion.

I respectfully disagree. A team that trades for Iginla will be a Stanley Cup contending team who is looking for a final piece. A 1st round pick (24-30th since that is the spot where a team would trade for him would be) + a good prospect would be paid by 5-6 teams in the league who think they have a good shot to win it all and are a piece away.

With that said, people asking for Brayden Schenn is way over the top as well. Philly wouldn't do that 1 for 1.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by memphusk

If teams feel that they are in the hunt, and/or have a chance at going all the way, they will pay. Teams like Philadelphia won't be able to afford all their youth when it comes contract time anyway.

But not with contributing young players. Can you think of any trades for a rental where a player like Schenn was moved?

[Enoch Root]

Schenn is now a contributing regular - that ship has sailed.

So how about Couturier?

[Milt Schmidt]

Originally Posted by big-bouw

I think Boston is a good place for Iggy to land.

Boston - Ryan Spooner + Alex Khokhlachev + 2013 1st
Calgary - Jarome Iginla + Chris Butler

Iggy gets to compete on an elite team, Calgary gets some young talent that are on the cusp of playing in the NHL.

I'd be shocked if Boston had any interest in Butler, they don't need more D and Butler isn't an upgrade on anyone that they already have. I'd imagine Boston would be interested in Iginla, and probably would offer one of Spooner, Khokhlachev, or Knight and a first round pick. That said, I doubt Iginla gets traded.

Milt

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Schenn is now a contributing regular - that ship has sailed.

So how about Couturier?

I've been hoping for Couturier since last year's playoffs. If the Flames can trade Iginla for that kid, they do it in a heartbeat, IMO.