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				Irving is 24 years old.  Yes - he's been around awhile because he was drafted at 18 but he's also dealt with significant injuries which have hampered his development.    I'd hardly say that his potential has peaked at 24.  I don't think he's ever been given a true chance. 
 
Taylor is a great story - but it's not like he's some this young up and coming superstar.  He's 26 - not old by any means and, same as Irving, probably hasn't reached his potential.  But how does Taylor get a chance to continue to develop when Irving doesn't? 
			
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The best player deserves to play.  It is Taylor's turn.  Irving hasn't done enough to keep playing every game that Kipper has missed.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-13-2013, 10:19 PM
			
			
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				I call it as i see it. I gave him huge props for the game against the Wild. I didn't even blame him for the Brodziak goal. Course he kinda looked foolish on the Koivu shootout. 
 
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Well according to Mike Rogers you can add another scoring chance on the last shot.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-13-2013, 10:19 PM
			
			
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				I don't think I understand your post.  Now you're willing to admit he looked good in a game?  But you're going to throw him under the bus because he's looked nervous tonight? 
			
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You must be new here. Bertuzied is the king of over-reactions.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-13-2013, 10:20 PM
			
			
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				I don't think I understand your post.  Now you're willing to admit he looked good in a game?  But you're going to throw him under the bus because he's looked nervous tonight? 
			
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Not everyone has to agree with you, Bertuzzied has a point Irving has to play better no excuses.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-13-2013, 10:20 PM
			
			
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			02-13-2013, 10:20 PM
			
			
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			02-13-2013, 10:20 PM
			
			
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			02-13-2013, 10:20 PM
			
			
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			Say this for Jagr, he can still dive just like he could when he was 20.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-13-2013, 10:20 PM
			
			
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			Eep...another PK.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-13-2013, 10:21 PM
			
			
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				Your logic is bizarre to me.  I just can't follow it.  One bad goal means an he's never going to be an NHL goalie.... but one good game means nothing? 
 
I mean - I'm not willing to base his entire career on one game and I wouldn't expect anyone to.  But you seem to be willing to give up on the guy based on tonight's 2 periods but give no credit for a good game? 
			
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At this point in his career it looks like his steady games are not the norm. 
 
And it hasn't been one bad goal.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-13-2013, 10:21 PM
			
			
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			02-13-2013, 10:21 PM
			
			
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			02-13-2013, 10:21 PM
			
			
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			That looked like a dive...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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I don't know why he is in the NHL. Seriously.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-13-2013, 10:21 PM
			
			
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i have always liked that guy. Solid defender with offensive threat
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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					Originally Posted by  Eric Vail
					 
				 
				The best player deserves to play.  It is Taylor's turn.  Irving hasn't done enough to keep playing every game that Kipper has missed. 
			
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He is on the verge of having a winning record on a team that would be .500 if the score holds, not sure how much more he could do. He could have scored a few more goals in the Vancouver game, or maybe had a little more offensive vision in the Wild game, but a winning record is a winning record.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-13-2013, 10:22 PM
			
			
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			Stats don't tell the whole story, but Reinhart is a team worst -16. The next worst is -8 (HORAK)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-13-2013, 10:22 PM
			
			
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			It would take a lot of force to get a big guy like Jagr down like that.  I did not see that much force.  But you can't put the ref in that spot to make the call.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-13-2013, 10:22 PM
			
			
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				You must be new here. Bertuzied is the king of over-reactions. 
			
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Yeah i forgot to flip out on Iginla like everyone else.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-13-2013, 10:22 PM
			
			
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			Horrible call, cmon ref, jesus.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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