My oh my some are so quick to jump to conclusions. I realize that the legends of Iginla and Kipper were built on the 2004 run but the fact is that it's a team effort to get to the finals and while Iginla and Kipper may have been the main cogs Gelinas was a key ingredient, the play of the defense group, as well as a lot of injury fill in players that stepped up big and lets not forget about the team's coach, leader, and GM Darryl Sutter. It was a complete team effort to which Iginla and Kipper stood out for not only their individual play but being the only real notable stars of a truly blue collar group.
It's no coincidence that after the 2004 teams was dismantled somewhat after the lockout that the team never enjoyed a sniff of playoff success again. Pretty well confirms that 2004 was never just about Iginla and Kipper because if that was the case the team would have at least won a playoff series or two.
I did not want to get into this talk about 2004...but that's a stupid comment.
Its been their stellar play in the almost ten years since that have put them into legend status as Flames.
While we all love and appreciate what they did in that run, I think the majority of us are much more appreciative of re-sighing here a couple times. Coupled with Iginlas consistency the past oh I dont know 11 years.
Maybe Kipper becoming the winningest goalie for the Flames, and being one of the elite in the league for the better part of a decade also lends credit to their legendary status.
2004 was a long year ago. Anyone who thinks that Iginla and Kippers legend status is just built off a single run is delusional. Gelinas is the only player from that run who has a legend status based on what he did then.
While I agree that its a team game, lets not forget. Game 5 against the wings 0-1 wings. Game 6, 1-0 for the Flames in OT...Pretty sure that Kippers 69 saves over those two games is the reason we got where we got.
I referred back to 2004 (almost 9 years ago) because I think that is the only reason fans think Iginla has some sort of "Legacy" with the team.
1 Cup run does not make a player a legend.
500 Goals with 1 team is pretty special, but those are individual accomplishments and the bulk of those goals came in seasons where the Flames failed to make the Playoffs.
How many 50 goal seasons did Iginla have when the Flames made the Playoffs?
I think the problem that is plaguing the Flames is that Flames fans accept mediocrity as long as they have a 'hero' to turn to. As a result, Flames ownership is hesitant to pull the trigger on a rebuild because they want to keep a marketable asset.
If this was Montreal the rebuild would have been started alot sooner. No way is that storied franchise going to accept 24 years with only 1 first round victory to show for.
Lots of Canadian teams have made it to the stanley cup finals in the past 10 years
Canucks, Oilers, Senators. All of these teams except for Vancouver have already rebuilt their teams.
Iggy is paid to be a top forward. This is a 30 team league. In a good year, he has been top 10 several times. In a bad year, he is still in the top 30 forwards in the league. And guess what? Most others in the top 30 have teammates in the top 30.
He is getting shots this year but also is in a phase where he is trying to pick corners and going high and wide. He will get hot.
I know he will not play forever but expect he will lead the team by year end and would not be surprised to see him at 48 points.
And rebuilding is not going to be made or broken by trading him at the deadline.
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Iggy is paid to be a top forward. This is a 30 team league. In a good year, he has been top 10 several times. In a bad year, he is still in the top 30 forwards in the league. And guess what? Most others in the top 30 have teammates in the top 30.
He is getting shots this year but also is in a phase where he is trying to pick corners and going high and wide. He will get hot.
I know he will not play forever but expect he will lead the team by year end and would not be surprised to see him at 48 points.
And rebuilding is not going to be made or broken by trading him at the deadline.
Strong draft year and short season. It just feels like a good time to get some picks for him when the Flames aren't going to make any noise even if they somehow did magically make the playoffs this year. Combine that with the end of his contract making him a perfect rental for a contender. It just feels like the stars are aligning one last time to help the Flames get back to respectability and turn the 1976 64th pick that keeps on giving into another asset before its to late.
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Iggy is paid to be a top forward. This is a 30 team league. In a good year, he has been top 10 several times. In a bad year, he is still in the top 30 forwards in the league. And guess what? Most others in the top 30 have teammates in the top 30.
He is getting shots this year but also is in a phase where he is trying to pick corners and going high and wide. He will get hot.
I know he will not play forever but expect he will lead the team by year end and would not be surprised to see him at 48 points.
And rebuilding is not going to be made or broken by trading him at the deadline.
A rebuild that doesn't involve moving one of the few players on the team - and the only one over 30 - that would net a first-rounder, is not a rebuild.
A few years back when we were playing Chicago is when I recall thinking Iggy has really turned the corner, lost his edge, his heart, his drive. Burrish and Bolland were all over him and Iggy had no response. It went on that entire game, Iggy had no resolve. He doesn't get angry anymore. He is far too content. It just was not and is not like Iggy to take $4!+ from scrubs like that.
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from a guy that is closer to Iginla then any fans. Playing and being the locker room with Iginla when he was at his best and seeing the decline.
I tend to agree with Rhett Iginla has lost a couple steps and he doesn't drive to the net and bull his way through defenders.
Iginla prefers now for the last few seasons to score from 15-20ft away and when the shots are off he slumps.
When will the shots start being more precise again for Iggy who knows but he will probably score 5 in 7 games and then cool off for 5.
My guess is the Flames wait until April to see if he he gets going in the goal department then make a decision do we trade or keep him.
Either way i hope his cap hit is a hell of alot less then 7m.
Hudler at 4m you do the math.
Iginla prefers now for the last few seasons to score from 15-20ft away and when the shots are off he slumps.
The best shooters in the league (Malkin, Stamko, etc) score most of their goals from that range. It's the sweet spot for them. Iggy is a power forward, not a pure shooter. He needs to go to the net like he used to and use his hands and body more.
The best shooters in the league (Malkin, Stamko, etc) score most of their goals from that range. It's the sweet spot for them. Iggy is a power forward, not a pure shooter. He needs to go to the net like he used to and use his hands and body more.
Iggy hasn't been a power forward for 4-5 years.
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