Annual Trade Iggy thread

[H2SO4(aq)]

i sure hope feaster is ready to pull the trigger if/when the time comes this season, but im worried it wont happen.

i would unload iginla, cammi and gio if possible and get some solid pieces back.

dont think we are getting henrique from nj. he looks like a rising star and too vital to their offense for a rental player.

I also think we could get some damn good value for giordano come deadline time to a contender. he could fetch a tj oshie type player imo

[magicpixels]

Originally Posted by Psytic

Only one I can think of in modern times is Sellane. He had a 94 pt season with 48 goals at 36 Legen-dary.

He also had two very good linemates that were setting him up.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

It's probably happened now. He's 36.

We have to stop blaming Iginla we don't have a heir apparent. He isn't the player he was. No one at that age ever is.

I don't think anyone that makes comments like that about Iginla disagrees with you. No ones blaming him, they are clearly blaming management and their disastrous miss management of Iginla the asset and disastrous evaluation of this teams potential year after year.

[Tinordi]

I've heard rumors that Iginla does influence roster decisions with this team so he may not be completely blameless.

[FlamesAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

It's probably happened now. He's 36.

We have to stop blaming Iginla we don't have a heir apparent. He isn't the player he was. No one at that age ever is.

Exactly. He's proved me wrong before but eventually he's going to fall well short of his usual goal totals. This may be the year. But it's a huge failing of the team if we still need to rely on 36 year old Iginla to provide the bulk of our offence. I know they've tried to address this with some of their acquisitions though.

His style of play doesn't really lend itself to longevity IMO. Maybe if he molded himself into a positional shooter but I haven't seen him get too many opportunities to wire a clear one timer at net so far this year. Generally it seems like he's stuck along the perimeter or well covered in the slot.

Personally, he sometimes looks like he knows he needs to adjust his game in order to remain effective offensively but is struggling to figure out exactly how.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

I've heard rumors that Iginla does influence roster decisions with this team so he may not be completely blameless.

With all due respect, this shouldn't even be posted. You ruined your own post with the first three words.

[FlamesAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by Psytic

Only one I can think of in modern times is Sellane. He had a 94 pt season with 48 goals at 36 Legen-dary.

True but I'd argue Iginla and Selanne play two different styles in order to generate their offence. Iginla more crash and bash and strength ala a power forward. Selanne more skill and finesse. Iginla's is obviously going to take more of a toll with age.

Ray Whitney and Jagr come to mind as a couple other ageless wonders as well.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

With all due respect, this shouldn't even be posted. You ruined your own post with the first three words.

Wasn't it all but confirmed that Iggy strongly influenced several player deals because he likes them as line mates? Tangs for example.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by FlamesAllTheWay

True but I'd argue Iginla and Selanne play two different styles in order to generate their offence. Iginla more crash and bash and strength ala a power forward. Selanne more skill and finesse.

Iginla's is obviously going to take more of a toll with age.

I think Teemu was 35/36 during the 2004 lockout. That whole season off let him heal up and he seemed to find his game again.

The guy always kills us but he's so damn fun to watch.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

With all due respect, this shouldn't even be posted. You ruined your own post with the first three words.

It is true though. He wanted Bertuzzi and he phoned Brad Richards. There is probably more.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by zamler

Wasn't it all but confirmed that Iggy strongly influenced several player deals because he likes them as line mates? Tangs for example.

Wouldn't be out of the realm. I don't recall that but wouldn't be surprised though, so I'll give you that.

At the end of the day the captain having a say wouldn't be too weird but if we're blaming Iginla for roster moves we're reaching. It would be like blaming Hartley for Iginla not scoring in the shootout. He might have suggestions but ultimately no say.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Psytic

It is true though. He wanted Bertuzzi and he phoned Brad Richards. There is probably more.

Iginla is the captain, he'll have input I suppose. I'd just be shocked if anyone is putting any blame at his feet. I think that's just misdirected criticism.

[Psytic]

So what happens if we hit the deadline and Iggy is sitting at 5 goals or something crappy like that? Should the Flames trade him now if there is signs hes slowing down or hang on till the deadline to see if its just the typical slow start? Assuming he is shopped at all this year.

[gartman]

I can't wait till the young guns era

[magicpixels]

That call to Richards did a whole lot of good. Richards probably wished him the best of luck but said there was no chance in hell he was coming to Calgary.

I do think 5 years from now the team will be better off without Iginla. I think many fans will be stuck on the idea of Iginla being a flame for life.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by Psytic

So what happens if we hit the deadline and Iggy is sitting at 5 goals or something crappy like that? Should the Flames trade him now if there is signs hes slowing down or hang on till the deadline to see if its just the typical slow start? Assuming he is shopped at all this year.

We should all gripe about how we should have traded him 3 years ago like many of the forward looking fans were recommending to do at that time.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Psytic

It is true though. He wanted Bertuzzi and he phoned Brad Richards. There is probably more.

He phoned them AFTER the Flames showed interest in them as a courtesy to Ken King, the GM and the owners.

He wasn't calling them out of the blue.

[FlamesAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I think Teemu was 35/36 during the 2004 lockout. That whole season off let him heal up and he seemed to find his game again.

The guy always kills us but he's so damn fun to watch.

Yes, good point. Quick look at his stats and he's been hovering right around point-per-game since then. And not due to a few bloated seasons that average things out either. He's been pretty consistent every year.

Guy is unreal.

[FlamesAllTheWay]

Originally Posted by Psytic

So what happens if we hit the deadline and Iggy is sitting at 5 goals or something crappy like that? Should the Flames trade him now if there is signs hes slowing down or hang on till the deadline to see if its just the typical slow start? Assuming he is shopped at all this year.

Unless the playoffs are a sure thing or we're right in the thick of it I think the Flames would be foolish not to explore trade options. Even if he's struggling other teams know he's not exactly surrounded by the most elite supporting cast. He's had a winger as his primary centre for most of the season so far.

Plus Iginla as a rental has got to be appealing for some teams as well. Unless he totally tanks there's still some value there I think.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

We should all gripe about how we should have traded him 3 years ago like many of the forward looking fans were recommending to do at that time.

I think you just passive-aggressively did just that.