[News] Flames claim Joey MacDonald

[getbak]

I think too many people are trying to read too much into the timing of this.

The fact is, Detroit waived him yesterday. He was available for a waiver claim at 10:00am MST today. The Flames put in a waiver claim when they could, and they got the player.

Now, Feaster has to figure out what they're going to do going forward.

This wasn't part of some bigger plan because he was only available 26 hours ago, and they didn't know that they'd get him for sure until 2 hours ago.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Actually thinking about it, if Irving knows he is getting the boot why would the Flames start him tonite? It's almost a guarantee Taylor is going to start.

Otherwise it will be like the Jokinen trade to the Rangers all over again.

I would suggest that Irving knows something we don't and won't have to speculate. I personally believe this is more about Kipper than Irving. Whether is injury or trade (like you I also doubt trade).

I know Bobby Mac is is reliable but things are just too askew to make sense otherwise.

[North East Goon]

It's a stop gap measure MacDonald will be waived when Kipper returns.

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

Originally Posted by Henry Fool

When the Rämö trade went down, Feaster's official statement was:
That seems factual. As Ashasx says, there's no objective measurement of who is the absolute best goalie, period.

I'm thinking the guy who is 9th in save % and 6th in GAA is in fact not the best goalie in the KHL.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by getbak

I think too many people are trying to read too much into the timing of this.

The fact is, Detroit waived him yesterday. He was available for a waiver claim at 10:00am MST today. The Flames put in a waiver claim when they could, and they got the player.

Now, Feaster has to figure out what they're going to do going forward.

This wasn't part of some bigger plan because he was only available 26 hours ago, and they didn't know that they'd get him for sure until 2 hours ago.

I agree with this, Feaster doesn't have a master plan... he just likes to do things, and go from there.

[Vinny01]

puzzling series of moves for the Flames. If we wanted to try and get another backup couldn't we have brought up Brossoit to sit on the pine until we could make this deal? Now Taylor seems like a wasted NHL deal that puts us up at 49 on the contract list.

I hope another trade is coming because having 4 goalies with NHL deals makes little sense.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Henry Fool

When the Rämö trade went down, Feaster's official statement was:
That seems factual. As Ashasx says, there's no objective measurement of who is the absolute best goalie, period. Every year someone wins the Vezina but people wouldn't be able to agree on who among the best in the NHL is the absolute best.

Rämö has NHL experience and has been one of the best in the KHL for years, so in that way he's ahead of some other Europeans who either had only one good season or had never played in NA before.

Any other opinions/accomplishments to note? Again mostly curious because I don't know the first thing about Ramo, and it seems others (Ashawx?) might have more information then I do.

[Jayems]

Out of curiosity, does making a claim impact our position the next time we want to claim someone from waivers, or do we stay in the same rotation based on last year's standings?

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Regarding

Point A: That is a myth, a widely spread one. Injured players can be traded, you just have to disclose all details of the injury to the other team. Players have been trded while on IR before and will again, it is just a rarity because quite frankly who wants to take the risk that the player can't reutrn to form afterwards.


Point B: The is no guarantee and since we lose his rights this summer he could sign anywhere in the NHL too

Ouch if that's true. I also read that his team in Russia was thinking of giving him a huge money contract. I believe the article said that it would make Ramo the highest paid goaltender in the history of the KHL. It did say that Ramo wanted to come back to the NHL, but money is money.

[Fuji]

This move makes a lot of sense to me. With Kipper due to make $1.5M next season, I don't see him as a Calgary Flame come the trade deadline. That gives us 2 goalies (Irving, Macdonald) to work with after this season's trade deadline, and with the highly-touted Ramo finishing KHL it makes sense; even if we have 4 goalies on 4 contracts; one of them will go (sooner or later). My bet is Kipper will fetch the best value.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by North East Goon

It's a stop gap measure MacDonald will be waived when Kipper returns.

If Kipper is returning on Wednesday, this makes no sense.

There's no way MacDonald will be able to get from Detroit to Calgary for tonight's game. The only way this idea makes any sense is if Kipper's injury is worse than originally thought and he's going to be out for a few more weeks.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I would suggest that Irving knows something we don't and won't have to speculate. I personally believe this is more about Kipper than Irving. Whether is injury or trade (like you I also doubt trade).

I know Bobby Mac is is reliable but things are just too askew to make sense otherwise.

Who is Bobby Mac?

[edn88]

233 posts on a backup goalie that was picked up on waivers - that is what I love about CP...

I think time tells all tales... am definitely curious how this plays out, but to make giant assumptions about what the Flames are doing in goal as a result of waiver pickup gets a little out of hand.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Actually thinking about it, if Irving knows he is getting the boot why would the Flames start him tonite? It's almost a guarantee Taylor is going to start.

Otherwise it will be like the Jokinen trade to the Rangers all over again.

Maybe they heard about your bet, and want you to lose...

[Hockey_Ninja]

If we are shopping Kipper. Please Jay, don't screw up this trade. Please.

[StrykerSteve]

I don't like this move one bit, unless it's a precursor to something bigger.

Irving is starting tonight, that's already confirmed.

The Flames now have too many backup goalies under contract for this year, and barely any goalies under contract for next season. Something's gotta give.

[browna]

Originally Posted by saillias

I agree with this, Feaster doesn't have a master plan... he just likes to do things, and go from there.

Kiprusoff was hurt only 6 days ago, and clearly Hartley and Feaster didn't like what they saw Thursday/Saturday. This on top of the intention for Irving to play a lot anyway this year, which is mainly why he was here and didn't play a lot on the farm during the lockout.

Sunday a veteran goalie is available for only the cost of a contract space, and only official when Monday morning comes around. There is also a game today with one of the goalies having to play, and tiptoeing around that.

Sometimes you have to plug the holes as they come...given Kirpusoff's exceptional durability the past decade, can't fault the Flames for scrambling to try and shore up the situation when he goes down as opposed to having the polished "Contingency plan for Kiprusoff's early season injury" ready to be enacted.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Ouch if that's true. I also read that his team in Russia was thinking of giving him a huge money contract. I believe the article said that it would make Ramo the highest paid goaltender in the history of the KHL. It did say that Ramo wanted to come back to the NHL, but money is money.

The new CBA has a rule stating is you are an RFA for 2 years you become a UFA.

[Canada 02]

the fact that Irving is starting tonight pretty much confirms that Taylor is being sent down after tonight. Having a veteran, NHL goalie, with 100 games under his belt, backup and support your de facto rookie goalie makes way more sense than having an AHLer in that spot

[North East Goon]

Originally Posted by getbak

If Kipper is returning on Wednesday, this makes no sense.

There's no way MacDonald will be able to get from Detroit to Calgary for tonight's game. The only way this idea makes any sense is if Kipper's injury is worse than originally thought and he's going to be out for a few more weeks.

Good point.