[News] Flames claim Joey MacDonald

[Goodlad]

Another possibility is MacDonald stays on our roster as Irving's backup until Kipper is back. At that point they could waive MacDonald, have Detroit claim him and send him down like they originally planned.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by kehatch

This isn't surprising. Clearly they don't have faith in Irving. They had the guy on waivers a few weeks ago and allowed him to be the third strong in Abby prior to the season start.

Meanwhile Kipper isn't playing well and suffered an injury. That isn't to say they are giving up on Kipper. But it does mean that they want a back-up they trust just in case.

I would have preferred to see them take a flyer on Bishop or Bernier rather then on a 33 year old guy who is UFA at season end. But they are pretty high on Ramo so this makes sense from their perspective.

To bad for Irving though. But I can't blame the Flames for lacking faith. His AHL numbers were underwhelming, he kept losing the starting job in Abby, and he has been shaky (not bad) in the NHL so far. There isn't much there to suggest he is a future NHL starter. And if he isn't then they might as well find a veteran back-up.

I would have liked both of those 2 goalies you listed also. Problem is they were not going to come cheap. Rumour is the Senators want at least a 3rd for Bishop. Bernier would have been even more expensive. And yes it does seem like they want Ramo over with the flames as soon as possible. I am not convinced Ramo would leave Russia to fight for a back up job. Flames are probably going to tell him that the back up job is all his and he has a chance to prove he is the guy to replace Kipper as #1

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Goodlad

Another possibility is MacDonald stays on our roster as Irving's backup until Kipper is back. At that point they could waive MacDonald, have Detroit claim him and send him down like they originally planned.

Pretty sure if Det claimed him they couldn't send him back down. I don't imagine they are too concerned about opening another roster spot to find a diamond in the rough that turns out to be another Datsyuk.

[SuperMatt18]

MacDonald has not played a game since March 14th of last season...not sure why we would pick up a goaltender who is obviously a risk coming off a back injury.

[Ashasx]

Are you asking why a goalie may be considered the best in the league?

Am I supposed to link some objective facts here? Can I ask who the best goaltender in the NHL is so easily? Of course what I'm saying is subjective.

The bigger question should be why do you automatically assume that any player the Flames sign will fail before he's given a chance?

[1_Flames_Fan]

I feel a bit bad for Irving but at this level you must be able to win games and he hasn't shown an ability to do that. Part of the blame is with the team and part of the blame is on him. He hasn't been terrible but if you are on a 2 way contract you need to be much better than just average or adequate. Macdonald has shown he can win games at this level and that is what the team needs right now. Bottom line is Irving wasn't going to be able to get the job done so they are bringing in someone else who has more experience and has a better chance of putting some W's on the board.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Are you asking why a goalie may be considered the best in the league?

Am I supposed to link some objective facts here? Can I ask who the best goaltender in the NHL is so easily? Of course what I'm saying is subjective.

The bigger question should be why do you automatically assume that any player the Flames sign will fail before he's given a chance?

Ok... subjective based on what? No need to be so confrontational. I was just wondering...

The best goaltender in the NHL is Henrik Lundqvist, because he won a Vezina. That would be my justification. So what is your justification that Ramo is the best in the 2nd best league in the world?

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Okay so out of the Bolded how would you set up the AHL tandem, then the two or three in the NHL?

Ramo/Irving NHL

Ortio/Broissoit AHL.

But it sucks for guys like Taylor and Brust who played well enough for the organization. Very likely they find jobs elsewhere anyways but you don't you have to use those spots to develop the talent your organization drafted?

I think it's likely Ortio stays in Finland another year and maybe comes over on his next contract if he gets one. I think the Heat will have a Taylor/Brossoit tandem in Abbotsford and a Ramo/Kiprusoff tandem in Calgary. Now this is assuming Ramo will be willing to come over to be Kipper's backup, which is not a slam dunk, the whole reason he wouldn't sign with Montreal is that he would not have a chance to be the starter.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Great. This pretty much shows that Feaster has no confidence in Irving or Taylor. Way to make Irving feel more sheltered and discouraged. Why can't we give our young guys a chance for once? Is this organization allergic to it? Might as well see how this all plays out.

[timbit]

Well it would sure be interesting to see what is going on inside Irving's brain as he is getting ready for tonight.

[nik-]

I'm a little leery of goaltending performance in the KHL. The game is quite different and the scoring chances and shots come about in a different way. There is less hacking away at the front of the net, deflections and quick choppy shots on net in the KHL. Much more loopy skating and wristers. The KHL seems to have more shots that are legit scoring chances, but the pace seems much slower and the overall count of shots seems lower.

Originally Posted by timbit

Well it would sure be interesting to see what is going on inside Irving's brain as he is getting ready for tonight.

screw this team. Most likely.

[EddyBeers]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Bump for Ashasx

(not trying to hurt any feelings, it just keeps being said and I forgot what the justification was)

Feaster said he was the best goalie not in the NHL when they traded for him, that is the justification I believe. No independent source said it to the best of my knowledge.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

I think it's likely Ortio stays in Finland another year and maybe comes over on his next contract if he gets one. I think the Heat will have a Taylor/Brossoit tandem in Abbotsford and a Ramo/Kiprusoff tandem in Calgary. Now this is assuming Ramo will be willing to come over to be Kipper's backup, which is not a slam dunk, the whole reason he wouldn't sign with Montreal is that he would not have a chance to be the starter.

I think the reason why he didn't sign in Montreal is that Price is 10 years younger than Kipper. I'm sure Feaster touched base with him before he did the trade.

[dammage79]

Eric Francis ‏@EricFrancis
J Feaster refuses to address media today to explain Joey MacDonald acquisition, fueling speculation he's trying hard to trade a g. Good luck


Seriously, Kipper is moving, I feel it.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Are you asking why a goalie may be considered the best in the league?

Am I supposed to link some objective facts here? Can I ask who the best goaltender in the NHL is so easily? Of course what I'm saying is subjective.

The bigger question should be why do you automatically assume that any player the Flames sign will fail before he's given a chance?

Gustavson was the best goalie outside the NHL at one point and that didn't work out so well.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Eric Francis ‏@EricFrancis
J Feaster refuses to address media today to explain Joey MacDonald acquisition, fueling speculation he's trying hard to trade a g. Good luck


Seriously, Kipper is moving, I feel it.

Or he's trying to get something, anything, for irving.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Goodlad

Another possibility is MacDonald stays on our roster as Irving's backup until Kipper is back. At that point they could waive MacDonald, have Detroit claim him and send him down like they originally planned.

I think the more likely outcome would be that the Flames would waive him and once he clears waivers we trade him (or other surplus AHL goalie... take your pick) back for a PTBNL. That way they don't have to keep him on the NHL roster and we get a roster slot back in the short-term.

[Stampede2TheCup]

Originally Posted by KOgear

Wohoooo 49 contracts, one left!

I don't think it's a big deal at this point. Apparently multiple teams wanted Jackman at the trade deadline and many teams often don't mind taking a garbage minor league contract to get a deal done. As has been speculated a bunch in this thread already, maybe Feaster already basically has a trade lined up to move someone out.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Eric Francis ‏@EricFrancis
J Feaster refuses to address media today to explain Joey MacDonald acquisition, fueling speculation he's trying hard to trade a g. Good luck


Seriously, Kipper is moving, I feel it.

No chance.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by timbit

Well it would sure be interesting to see what is going on inside Irving's brain as he is getting ready for tonight.

last game in the NHL. might as well go out in style and go Jamie Mclennan on Heatley.