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Erick Estrada · 02-11-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kyuss275

I don't think there is a chance in hell that the flames are going to trade Kipper this year.

I tend to agree here unless they are far out of the playoffs at the deadline in which they may want to explore exactly what Kipper wants to do next year. If he is firm in staying in Europe possibly the Flames could trade him and give him one last chance at the cup before he hangs up his skates. If he's open to coming back I could see Ramo and Kipper splitting time next season.

dino7c · 02-11-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kyuss275

Cammi was put on IR just before the move for Maconald.

that doesn't mean he was gonna play tonight if they didn't pick him up...pure speculation

EddyBeers · 02-11-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

How do you know he's not the real deal? He's the best goaltender in the second best league in the world.

Well stats wise he is about the 9th best goalie on the second best team in the second best league in the world.

Ashasx · 02-11-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

lol

What is wrong with you? Why are half he posters on this forum so god damn confrontational?

Half the people here hope the Flames fail so some perceived notion they believe about Brent Sutter or Feaster or Iginla can be proven right.

You guys are a joke. Worst fan base in the league.

kyuss275 · 02-11-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

How do you know he's not the real deal? He's the best goaltender in the second best league in the world.

Never said he was not the real deal. I said "if" he is not the real deal, they would probably try and resign Kipper. Flames will not know what they have in Ramo until next season. Kipper is not getting traded before that.

Bertuzzied · 02-11-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

What is wrong with you? Why are half he posters on this forum so god damn confrontational?

Half the people here hope the Flames fail so some perceived notion they believe about Brent Sutter or Feaster or Iginla can be proven right.

You guys are a joke. Worst fan base in the league.

Brent Sutter has been proven to be true though. 3 years and close to 300 games tells you everything.

Henry Fool · 02-11-2013, 11:13 AM

He went 8-5-1 last season. That's pretty good. I think it at least shows that he can win more games than lose, and as we've seen with the backups Flames have had the past few years, winning in the NHL is tough.

Must be disappointing for Irving, but I have to say that he hasn't proven to be a decent NHL goalie either. I'm not saying that he can't be, but I'm also not seeing any particular reason to make optimistic projections for him.

Derek Sutton · 02-11-2013, 11:14 AM

Well the Flames have only ever had two real deal goalies in the last 35 years. Can't/ won't be sold on Ramo for a few years yet.

howard_the_duck · 02-11-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

How can anyone say that after the 2nd and 4th goals? Also that 2nd goal, the game winning goal was a back breaker.

2nd wasn't great, but he more than made up for it with several acrobatic saves. Up to that point in the game the Flames should have been down by at least 3.

The ice was so heavily tilted the entire game, it's not a game you can hang on Leland at all.

I don't like the habit of Flames management for the past decade of hanging a goalie out to dry if he lets in a weak goal. Kipper has let in FAR weaker goals this year than Irving did on Saturday against the Canucks.

Alberta_Beef · 02-11-2013, 11:14 AM

Are people actually suggesting Cammalleri was placed on IR as an excuse to bench him? You don't place someone on IR to bench them, it was done because he won't be able to play until at least Friday due to injury.

With this pickup, I dunno, seems strange. You waste a contract on Taylor and claim someone a couple days later? Then the guy they claim has been IR all season with a bulging disc as hasn't even had a conditioning stint? this makes no sense, at all. I'm not even sure this is a good pickup if MacDonald is healthy.

I have a feeling this has more to do with Kipper than anyone, despite him skating today.

kyuss275 · 02-11-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

What is wrong with you? Why are half he posters on this forum so god damn confrontational?

Half the people here hope the Flames fail so some perceived notion they believe about Brent Sutter or Feaster or Iginla can be proven right.

You guys are a joke. Worst fan base in the league.

You need to settle down. No one said Ramo was going to be a failure. As for calling us " worst fan base in the league", you are the guy that said he would probably not cheer for the flames for a couple of years if Iggy was ever traded. That does not sound like the greatest fan to me.

the_only_turek_fan · 02-11-2013, 11:16 AM

The thing that is really confusing me is that Irving is not a bad goaltender. I am utterly confused with why they are doing this.

Igster · 02-11-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

The thing that is really confusing me is that Irving is not a bad goaltender. I am utterly confused with why they are doing this.

Feaster has been hitting the bottle?

Ashasx · 02-11-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kyuss275

You need to settle down. No one said Ramo was going to be a failure. As for calling us " worst fan base in the league", you are the guy that said he would probably not cheer for the flames for a couple of years if Iggy was ever traded. That does not sound like the greatest fan to me.

Uh, I never said that. Might want to check your notes.

SHOGUN · 02-11-2013, 11:18 AM

Jon Gilles is our new hope.

EddyBeers · 02-11-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Well the Flames have only ever had two real deal goalies in the last 35 years.

Rejean Lemelin was pretty good back in the day when a 3.50 GAA was not bad in the NHL, not the best in the league but definitely probably a top 10 guy at the time. That was back in the day when you could win a Vezina with a 3.3 GAA and a .888 SV percentage.....The Flames have probably had 3 real deal goalies since they came to Calgary.

Henry Fool · 02-11-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

2nd wasn't great, but he more than made up for it with several acrobatic saves. Up to that point in the game the Flames should have been down by at least 3.

The ice was so heavily tilted the entire game, it's not a game you can hang on Leland at all.

I don't like the habit of Flames management for the past decade of hanging a goalie out to dry if he lets in a weak goal. Kipper has let in FAR weaker goals this year than Irving did on Saturday against the Canucks.

Goalie performance played no part in the result in the game against the Canucks. That was a loss regardless. The management isn't basing their decisions on that or some weak goals let in here and there. And the difference between Irving and Kipper is that Kipper doesn't have to prove himself to be an NHL goalie.

orr444 · 02-11-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Are people actually suggesting Cammalleri was placed on IR as an excuse to bench him? You don't place someone on IR to bench them, it was done because he won't be able to play until at least Friday due to injury.

With this pickup, I dunno, seems strange. You waste a contract on Taylor and claim someone a couple days later? Then the guy they claim has been IR all season with a bulging disc as hasn't even had a conditioning stint? this makes no sense, at all. I'm not even sure this is a good pickup if MacDonald is healthy.

I have a feeling this has more to do with Kipper than anyone, despite him skating today.

And cammy did skate today with the team. His IR is retroactive to February 5th, which means most likely he will play on Wednesday. Bob Mckenzie also mentioned, the plan is for kipper to play on Wednesday.

kyuss275 · 02-11-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

Uh, I never said that. Might want to check your notes.

Excuse me? We had this converstaion about Iggy in the summer and yes you said that if Iggy was traded you would lose interest in the flames for a couple of years.

Banner · 02-11-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

How can anyone say that after the 2nd and 4th goals? Also that 2nd goal, the game winning goal was a back breaker.

Irving wasn't the reason the flames lost on saturday. You can argue how bad he is and how soft the goals were, but the team in front of him that decided to not show up were why they lost.

Irving is by no means Kiprusoff, but he is a decent goalie. He can get you a win if the whole team actually makes an effort and does not leave him to dry. However, to expect him to be able to win for a team that plays majority of the game in their own end is unreasonable.

It's not like he killed any flames momentum by letting in those goals. The flames had zero momentum all night and let the canucks use irving as shooting practice.