[$50 bet] Dion vs Bertuzzied; Which Flames goalie starts Monday

[topfiverecords]

Wow, no chance Taylor starts. 100% Guaranteed $50 for Dion here.

[flamesfan55]

I want Irving to get the start for the fact that I want to see how he bounces back from this loss.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Yup!!! and no thanx to those other offers.

Irving starts you get $50.

Taylor or anyone else that starts, you can't post a gif for 2 weeks or I get $50. hehe~!

Nice try! We'll stick to original $50 bet.

[Northendzone]

I thought eating pubes was the typical cp wager?

[squiggs96]

I think it would be a terrible message if they play Taylor the game after Irving gets lit up. I believe Irving is the better goalie and he needs to be allowed to play as the number one until Kipper gets back. A short leash doesn't help the team, and snap decisions need to be avoided.

That being said, how are there no pubes involved in this bet?

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

I think it would be a terrible message if they play Taylor the game after Irving gets lit up. I believe Irving is the better goalie and he needs to be allowed to play as the number one until Kipper gets back. A short leash doesn't help the team, and snap decisions need to be avoided.

That being said, how are there no pubes involved in this bet?

Any reason why? Stats don't suggest this or watching them both play. Is it just cause he was a Flames first round pick or a hunch or something? I think Irving will start the next game but I still think Taylor is just as good or better currently and should get a start before Kipper is back. They could both look good and teams could get interested and we could end up getting a pick for one of them. There wont be room for both of them next yr and i'd rather get something rather than nothing so showcasing both these guys makes sense to me personally.

I am not really hell bent on play offs this year. If they can give a couple guys a chance to see what we have in the system its not a big loss since its a short season and a good draft year any way. I wouldn't mind shopping Kipper when he gets back and letting these guys ride out what ever is left of season, then trading off which ever is worse between the two. We could turn two goalies into a few picks and maybe a prospect. Then have Ramo and who ever survives between Irving and Taylor for next year. There is a market for Kipper as well and if we ask for less then Gillis wants for Lou than I am sure there is quite a few suitors.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Psytic

Any reason why? Stats don't suggest this or watching them both play. Is it just cause he was a Flames first round pick or a hunch or something? I think Irving will start the next game but I still think Taylor is just as good or better currently and should get a start before Kipper is back. They could both look good and teams could get interested and we could end up getting a pick for one of them. There wont be room for both of them next yr and i'd rather get something rather than nothing so showcasing both these guys makes sense to me personally.

I am not really hell bent on play offs this year. If they can give a couple guys a chance to see what we have in the system its not a big loss since its a short season and a good draft year any way. I wouldn't mind shopping Kipper when he gets back and letting these guys ride out what ever is left of season, then trading off which ever is worse between the two. We could turn two goalies into a few picks and maybe a prospect. Then have Ramo and who ever survives between Irving and Taylor for next year. There is a market for Kipper as well and if we ask for less then Gillis wants for Lou than I am sure there is quite a few suitors.

Taylor getting a couple of games is not going to increase his trade value. He could have been signed by anybody in the last 2 years.


Why do people think Taylor is in the flames long term plans? He signed a two way contract out of emergency. Without the injury to Kipper they would never had thought of bringing him up.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Taylor getting a couple of games is not going to increase his trade value. He could have been signed by anybody in the last 2 years.


Why do people think Taylor is in the flames long term plans? He signed a two way contract out of emergency. Without the injury to Kipper they would never had thought of bringing him up.

If he can take the ball and run with it for a few NHL starts coupled with his last 3 seasons in the AHL being very good I think he could garner a pick. Didn't we get a pick for Karlsson? That and I think it doesn't hurt to see if he is any good, we could end up keeping him. He sure seems like he has taken some steps forward since his one start for LA. Also I am not sure if I like Irving's attitude of wanting to bolt to Europe.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Psytic

Any reason why? Stats don't suggest this or watching them both play. Is it just cause he was a Flames first round pick or a hunch or something? I think Irving will start the next game but I still think Taylor is just as good or better currently and should get a start before Kipper is back. They could both look good and teams could get interested and we could end up getting a pick for one of them. There wont be room for both of them next yr and i'd rather get something rather than nothing so showcasing both these guys makes sense to me personally.

I would say the fact that the Flames had enough interest in Irving to give him a contract and let him play games while no team in the NHL would do the same thing for Taylor indicates that Irving has a little more value at the NHL level than Taylor. I would wonder why Taylor would be seen as being as good or better when he has struggled finding and keeping a full time starting gig, put up some terrible numbers in the past and has 0 offers from NHL teams going into this season. He has put up good numbers for half a season in Abbotsford this year but that seems like a short time frame to base a judgement on him being better than Irving.

He would have to play exceptionally well and even then unlikely he gets any interest from anyone as they could have signed him two weeks ago for nothing so unlikely they give up assets based on a few games now and every team in the league has a better goalie on their roster and likely in the AHL as well.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by moon

I would say the fact that the Flames had enough interest in Irving to give him a contract and let him play games while no team in the NHL would do the same thing for Taylor indicates that Irving has a little more value at the NHL level than Taylor. I would wonder why Taylor would be seen as being as good or better when he has struggled finding and keeping a full time starting gig, put up some terrible numbers in the past and has 0 offers from NHL teams going into this season. He has put up good numbers for half a season in Abbotsford this year but that seems like a short time frame to base a judgement on him being better than Irving.

He would have to play exceptionally well and even then unlikely he gets any interest from anyone as they could have signed him two weeks ago for nothing so unlikely they give up assets based on a few games now and every team in the league has a better goalie on their roster and likely in the AHL as well.

Taylor has 3 seasons of play at or better than Irving so its not like he just had a few good games. I am not saying he is worth more than Irving but currently his play seems to be about as good or better and I do think he should get a chance to play some games. I don't think there is anything to lose (except the game =)) and the benefit of course is the possibility of turning a guy who was worth nothing into an asset.

[bluck]

Peter maar just said Irving gets the start.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by bluck

Peter maar just said Irving gets the start.

Who is that?

Nothing is official until i hear Rob Kerr yell his name at 7pm!

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Who is that?

Nothing is official until i hear Rob Kerr yell his name at 7pm!

You better hope for the flue or food poisoning at this point.

[AR_Six]

I fully expect Bertuzzied to be stalking Leland holding a tire iron by this afternoon.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by AR_Six

I fully expect Bertuzzied to be stalking Leland holding a tire iron by this afternoon.

I'm gonna pull a harding on him.

[AR_Six]

^I don't think you can GIVE a goalie multiple sclerosis.

[Fuji]

How did Dion sucker Bertuzzied into this bet? It's mind-boggling.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Fuji

How did Dion sucker Bertuzzied into this bet? It's mind-boggling.

haha. it's bottling and i wasn't suckered.

Win-win situation. I get to help the elderly and it's a guaranteed over bet tonite if Irving starts.

Plus Taylor is going to start tonite so the point is moot.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Fuji

How did Dion sucker Bertuzzied into this bet? It's mind-boggling.

Mind Bottling !!???? .... I still dont get it...

[Goodlad]

Originally Posted by AR_Six

^I don't think you can GIVE a goalie multiple sclerosis.

I'm pretty sure he's referring to the Harding/Kerrigan incident