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cannon7 · 02-06-2013, 11:01 AM

Shame we couldn't bring Ramo in...

Street Pharmacist · 02-06-2013, 11:04 AM

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To play regularily? No.

But to practice with the club and open the gate on game days for a week or so while we wait on doctors to see if Kipper is out for more then two or three games? Sure, why not if it saves us a contract slot. I'm not talking about playing him.

And him not playing is terrible for development. Horrible idea

The Yen Man · 02-06-2013, 11:08 AM

I've seen a couple of comments where people were wishing Calgary didn't have to burn an NHL contract. I don't really know it works exactly. Is there really that much harm? My understanding is the max is 50 contracts, and Calgary had 47 (prior to Taylor signing) under contract, so they had 3 for wiggle room. What's the advantage of keeping the 3 other than signing free agents for this season?

Parallex · 02-06-2013, 11:08 AM

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And him not playing is terrible for development. Horrible idea

Come on now... It'd be a week and a half max and in that time he'd get to practice with some of the best players in the world. Hardly "terrible" or detrimental to his development at all.

Canada 02 · 02-06-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Yen Man

I've seen a couple of comments where people were wishing Calgary didn't have to burn an NHL contract. I don't really know it works exactly. Is there really that much harm? My understanding is the max is 50 contracts, and Calgary had 47 (prior to Taylor signing) under contract, so they had 3 for wiggle room. What's the advantage of keeping the 3 other than signing free agents for this season?

that's it. Room to sign college free agents; they may have lost out on JT Brown or Torey Krug last spring because they didn't have contract room

There are a handful of undrafted college free agents who may sign this March/April. Feaster has said he wants to leave room for those potential signings

Parallex · 02-06-2013, 11:13 AM

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What's the advantage of keeping the 3 other than signing free agents for this season?

Allows us room to sign top college free agents, take on more contracts in trade, act as facilitators for trades between other teams (at a charge of course). It's not a big deal but it is a small inefficiency.

polak · 02-06-2013, 11:15 AM

How awesome would it be if he stole the show and this led to a geniune goalie controversy.

Yoho · 02-06-2013, 11:19 AM

They should have saved the contract and put the 7th defenceman in as backup for this stint.

IamNotKenKing · 02-06-2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Parallex

Sign Brossoit to an ELC, emergency recall him, ELC contract slides when he goes back down maintaining the open slot... or is that against the rules somehow?

That does not solve the apparent issue of signing someone to a contract, which I understood to be the beef...would rather have Taylor signed than Brossoit right now, as no one can poach Brossoit, while Taylor can be poached.

Knut · 02-06-2013, 11:32 AM

We are now at 48 contracts i think.. still two spots open and it is likely easy enough to shed one if need be.

The Yen Man · 02-06-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Canada 02

that's it. Room to sign college free agents; they may have lost out on JT Brown or Torey Krug last spring because they didn't have contract room

There are a handful of undrafted college free agents who may sign this March/April. Feaster has said he wants to leave room for those potential signings

I totally forgot about UFAs coming out of college. I was just thinking most decent UFAs are gone already, so there shouldn't be any harm in adding a contract or two.

J epworth · 02-06-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

That does not solve the apparent issue of signing someone to a contract, which I understood to be the beef...would rather have Taylor signed than Brossoit right now, as no one can poach Brossoit, while Taylor can be poached.

Brossoit needs to be signed by June though or he goes back into the draft, so we would be using one of the contracts on him most likely anyways. Probably the case where we weren't able to bring him up in an emergency basis because kipper will be out for more than a game or two.

Max Cow Disease · 02-06-2013, 11:36 AM

Exciting! Add Taylor to the diminutive faction of limey players that have suited up in the NHL.

Pacem · 02-06-2013, 11:36 AM

The concern about a contract spot being eaten up is over blown. Do NHL teams often sign more then 2 college FA's at a time? If we just had to have that 3rd college FA, we still have the trade deadline as an opportunity to get rid of a contract. Karlsson managed to fetch a 7th rounder. Butler for a bag of pucks? Comeau for half a bag of pucks?

I thought it was a bit ridiculous not to have a 3rd goalie signed to an NHL contract to begin the season anyways. Compressed season. No training camp. Not unimaginable that even a back up goalie gets a sore groin or any other ailment.

Knut · 02-06-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by J epworth kendal

Brossoit needs to be signed by June though or he goes back into the draft, so we would be using one of the contracts on him most likely anyways. Probably the case where we weren't able to bring him up in an emergency basis because kipper will be out for more than a game or two.

I do not think it would apply to this season though. it will be a 3 year ELC starting next season. If you sign him now (which i think you have to do to make an emergency call-up) you would have to have the contract start now and burn a year of his ELC.

Parallex · 02-06-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

That does not solve the apparent issue of signing someone to a contract, which I understood to be the beef...would rather have Taylor signed than Brossoit right now, as no one can poach Brossoit, while Taylor can be poached.

Yes it does, Brossoit would be sent back to the WHL after and his ELC start date would slide to next year thus maintaining the 3 slots we had available. It'd be the same situation as Sven last year.

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The concern about a contract spot being eaten up is over blown. Do NHL teams often sign more then 2 college FA's at a time?

Shrug... I'd rather have but not need then need but not have. Doubly so considering that there maybe other moves we may make to shorten that number further

Roof-Daddy · 02-06-2013, 11:42 AM

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thus maintaining the 3 slots we had available.

Slut.

Calgary4LIfe · 02-06-2013, 11:45 AM

I am pretty sure Taylor is waiver-eligible. I wonder what the chances are of him clearing waivers when Kipper gets healthy. If he gets a game or two in the NHL, and does well, he might end up getting snatched by another team with injury problems or poor goaltending.

Doubt it would happen, but would be interesting if it did.

sa226 · 02-06-2013, 11:45 AM

It could just be my revisionist history,

But I don't remember anybody caring about the contract limit until we hit it a couple of years ago.

Now it seems like its the first thing brought up any time we make a trade or sign a player.

If we signed Crosby people would be concerned about how many NHL contracts we were carrying.

Is it really that big of a deal?

Phanuthier · 02-06-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

And him not playing is terrible for development. Horrible idea

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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I am pretty sure Taylor is waiver-eligible. I wonder what the chances are of him clearing waivers when Kipper gets healthy. If he gets a game or two in the NHL, and does well, he might end up getting snatched by another team with injury problems or poor goaltending.

Doubt it would happen, but would be interesting if it did.

Meh every team has their Martin Broshu... I'm sure he'll clear waivers no problem.