[News] Kipper Injured. Update: Day to Day Lower Body

[MissTeeks]

Pat Steinberg ‏@Fan960Steinberg

#Flames practice at around 11 am Calgary time. Kiprusoff update likely to come after that.

[jlh2640]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Thats the way i see it also. My only concern is if Irving has a bad game tomorrow. He might be on a very short leash. Flames wanted Ramo to be back up this year. After Irving won back up job there were rumblings that they were looking for another back up goalie. So if he has a bad game do they rush Kipper back to soon? Do they spend assets on someone like Bishop?

I think Iriving has shown he can play at this level (minus the Boston game) last year. Time will tell, but the mandate has been to win now. So I guess if they cant pry Ramo over here now then you have to assess the options but I wouldnt give up a ton to get Bernier or Bishop. I think Kipper is back by next week anyways.

[The Big Thirsty]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Kipper had been bad up to the blackhawks game. If he had finished last nights game, that would have been 2 great starts for him on a row. Lets hope Irving can keep the flames alive and Kipper plays like the last 2 starts when he comes back.

How do you consider a shootout loss in a game we dominated to be a great start? One of the two goals they scored in regulation was terrible, and Kipper was Kipper in the shootout which guarantees us a loss regardless of who is shooting for the Flames.

Meanwhile, Chicago's backup comes in and steals the show.

I think Kipper was playing well last night, and I think he played against the Canucks (outside of the usual shootout shenanigans). Outside of those two games, he's been garbage this year (and I do not consider his performance agains the Oilers to have been good, some questionably goals that night as well). I don't see the panic in having Irving play a few games, because we'd received sub-standard goaltending in 5 of the 7 games we've played this year. If we could have even had average goaltending in a couple of those games, we'd be in a lot better spot today.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by The Big Thirsty

How do you consider a shootout loss in a game we dominated to be a great start? One of the two goals they scored in regulation was terrible, and Kipper was Kipper in the shootout which guarantees us a loss regardless of who is shooting for the Flames.

Meanwhile, Chicago's backup comes in and steals the show.

I think Kipper was playing well last night, and I think he played against the Canucks (outside of the usual shootout shenanigans). Outside of those two games, he's been garbage this year (and I do not consider his performance agains the Oilers to have been good, some questionably goals that night as well). I don't see the panic in having Irving play a few games, because we'd received sub-standard goaltending in 5 of the 7 games we've played this year. If we could have even had average goaltending in a couple of those games, we'd be in a lot better spot today.

Kipper made a bunch of huge saves in the Chicago game. As for the shootout, the flames players also did not score.

[The Big Thirsty]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Kipper made a bunch of huge saves in the Chicago game. As for the shootout, the flames players also did not score.

He didn't make the stops that counted, Emery sure did.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by The Big Thirsty

He didn't make the stops that counted, Emery sure did.

Kipper didn't have teammates like Glencross and Backlund to shoot them into his pads.

On a normal nite where Emery doesn't sacrifice an Ukrainian virgin to Satan, he would have let in 6 goals.

[the_professsor]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Kipper made a bunch of huge saves in the Chicago game. As for the shootout, the flames players also did not score.

It seems like Flames players not scoring in shootouts has been a theme since they implemented the shootout. I'd be interested to see how many times CGY has scored more than one goal in a shootout.

Must be hard for Kipper knowing one goal against is likely the game

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by The Big Thirsty

He didn't make the stops that counted, Emery sure did.

Emery played out of this world and the Flames shooters were snake bitten. Kipper let in one goal.

I'm always confused by posters with an axe to grind.

[zukes]

Originally Posted by Tilley

He was the third goalie with the Heat because he couldn't/didn't want to sign with a European team during the lock out and the Flames didn't want him sitting around. By signing with the Heat it allowed him to stay in Canada with his young family and stay sharp working with the affiliate of his NHL team.

Irving could only dress for a max of 20 games. The Heat already has two 'AHL veteran' goalies so why get Irving in, when he's already established that he can play at that level. It was more important to have Irving ready to compete for the back up job when the lockout ended. Now Irving has his chance to show that he can play in the NHL.

It's amazing how many times this has to be said on here, yet people still don't know the situation. Not only this, but as others have mentioned, if Irving gets injured, the Flames were stuck with Karlsson, who at this stage is clearly not an NHL goalie. His rebound control was brutal. Irving played sparingly and stayed in game shape. His performance was clearly not being counted as he won the job here and there was no talk of signing Taylor or Brust depite their performances. That speaks volumes of what the Flames think of Irving compared to those two guys. They have the contract space open if either of those guys were NHL-caliber.

[EverfresH15]

My buddy is dressed and practicing with the flames right now.

[The Big Thirsty]

Originally Posted by the_professsor

It seems like Flames players not scoring in shootouts has been a theme since they implemented the shootout. I'd be interested to see how many times CGY has scored more than one goal in a shootout.

Must be hard for Kipper knowing one goal against is likely the game

Kipper's problem in the shootout is that he comes way too far out of his net and doesn't play the angles. He's not a technical goalie, and this kills him in the shootout. Flames shooters are just as much of a problem, but it wouldn't really matter even if we were scoring at a higher rate, the opposition always scores on at least 2 of their first 3 attempts.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by The Big Thirsty

Kipper's problem in the shootout is that he comes way too far out of his net and doesn't play the angles. He's not a technical goalie, and this kills him in the shootout. Flames shooters are just as much of a problem, but it wouldn't really matter even if we were scoring at a higher rate, the opposition always scores on at least 2 of their first 3 attempts.

Kipper isn't great in the shootout but career wise he is probably average. Exaggerating and making bogus claims isn't helping anything on your side.

[the_professsor]

Originally Posted by The Big Thirsty

Kipper's problem in the shootout is that he comes way too far out of his net and doesn't play the angles. He's not a technical goalie, and this kills him in the shootout. Flames shooters are just as much of a problem, but it wouldn't really matter even if we were scoring at a higher rate, the opposition always scores on at least 2 of their first 3 attempts.

This works both ways..."it wouldn't really matter if Kipper was making saves at a higher rate, the Flames never score on more than 1 attempt and usually don't score at all"

Either way you spin it, our shooters suck and Kipper sucks in the shootout

[MissTeeks]

Pat Steinberg ‏@Fan960Steinberg

Could actually get a Kiprusoff update before the end of practice. Stay tuned. #Flames

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by The Big Thirsty

Kipper's problem in the shootout is that he comes way too far out of his net and doesn't play the angles. He's not a technical goalie, and this kills him in the shootout. Flames shooters are just as much of a problem, but it wouldn't really matter even if we were scoring at a higher rate, the opposition always scores on at least 2 of their first 3 attempts.

Kipper gave his team TWO chances to win against the Canucks. The Flames didn't score a single shoot out goal against the Hawks. Can't really blame him in the shootout.

[PeteLFan]

Wont be the worst thing, hopefully hes alright because Kipper for all his faults this year, is still our ticket to the playoffs. It will be good to see what Irving can do.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Kipper had been bad up to the blackhawks game. If he had finished last nights game, that would have been 2 great starts for him on a row.

... He gave up two goals on 19 shots and didn't hold up his half of the shootout (not that the shooters held up there end either but still). That's not a "great start", that's not even an average start... If I were to give that an adjective it'd be "mediocre".

He was fine last night (and against Vancouver) but other then those two games he's been either detrimental to the team or at best a net neutral asset.

[Stay Golden]

If Kipper is hurt for any length of time it would be absurd if Feaster doesn't sign Taylor or Brust to a 2 way contract.
If they seek a trade for anyone else i don't think its very wise. Especially if its involving any draft pick.
Either way hopefully it is a minor injury.
Maher said Kipper is traveling with the team and didn't appear to be limping or anything so that is good to hear.

[Madman]

Danny Taylor has been signed.

[dammage79]

Kipper is Day to Day.......WHEW!