Standings Death for Seth?

[moon]

Originally Posted by magicpixels

Really?

Iginla - Briere - Giroux

Hartness - Courtier - Tanguay

Again it's an upgrade for Philly. It's been pointed out by a few analysts now that after Giroux it thins out. If we can get Schenn + back I would trade Iggy and Tangs to them.

Is Philly now allowed to ignore the cap?

Even with Pronger out that is a huge cap hit for them to take.

I think Tanguay isn't likely to get a first back because as someone (opendoor?) mentioned in another thread 1st's aren't deal at the trade deadline nearly as much as they are on internet message boards and his big cap hit will be tough to fit into to teams caps without giving back a player so more likely he is dealt for a younger roster player in my view.

[magicpixels]

They'd need to move 1 player to facilitate it. Don't forget with the new CBA rules I'm pretty sure the flames are allowed to eat a portion of the cap hit.

Either way it would be a darn good fit in Philly.

They also have a surplus of good centermen. I would take either Courturier or Schenn in a heart beat.

[magicpixels]

I should say I don't think it matters as the management and ownership group are too blind to make such a bold move. They'd rather keep signing fringe players year after year hoping it's going to make a substantial difference in the end result.

I'd love to see them do a small rebuild by trading the core players as I think we need a new core and a fresh start.

Does the management have what it takes to do it?

I don't think so.

[JiriHrdina]

I don't think you get either of the Philly's young centres.

[Vinny01]

I think you keep Tangs. He is a good vet and on a nice contract. flames might have to eat cap on trading Bouwmeester, Cammy, Iggy or Kipper but those are the 4 you shop in addition to Stempniak, Sarich, Stajan, Butler in hopes of getting later round picks.

My attempt at deadline:

Iggy + Sarich + Butler for Schenn brothers (Flames eat $3M in cap)
Stempniak to the Pens for a 2nd
Kipper+Smith to Chi for Leddy+1st
Bouwmeester to the Wings for 1st+Abdelkader
Cammy to ? 2nd+prospect

[Laner99]

Trade iggy. Get a good pick this year and start a rebuild. I dont think the rebuild would be long as this team has some structure but now is the time to get value for iggy (if we still can). Lets be honest based on this yrs start losing iggy won't hurt this team as bad as people think. He's aging, he's slowing, and he has yet to score. Time to move on.

[boggledepot]

Originally Posted by magicpixels

I should say I don't think it matters as the management and ownership group are too blind to make such a bold move. They'd rather keep signing fringe players year after year hoping it's going to make a substantial difference in the end result.

I'd love to see them do a small rebuild by trading the core players as I think we need a new core and a fresh start.

Does the management have what it takes to do it?

I don't think so.

Well... It is their company and they are free to run it as they see fit; they stand to have the most to gain with this team, and the most to lose. As a customer we are perfectly well within our right to complain, then take our money, our time, and our passion elsewhere.

Truth be told, and it sorta sucks, but our opinions are utterly insignificant and don't make the slightest bit of difference. Welcome back fans eh?

[Trailer Fire]

I know Glencross is on one of the leagues best contracts, but do you think that could help net Calgary something good in return? Would his contract up his value enough to make it worth trading him?

[nik-]

Glencross wouldn't waive his NMC. It was a pretty major factor in his dollar value. I think even asking him would cause him to play pouty.

[Trailer Fire]

Originally Posted by nik-

Glencross wouldn't waive his NMC. It was a pretty major factor in his dollar value. I think even asking him would cause him to play pouty.

Eight I forgot about that. Bah I like Glencross on the Flames anyways. I'd hate to see him go.

[Geeoff]

If Iggy and Kipper keep playing like they have this year, you might improve the team by trading them...

[boggledepot]

Originally Posted by Trailer Fire

I know Glencross is on one of the leagues best contracts, but do you think that could help net Calgary something good in return? Would his contract up his value enough to make it worth trading him?

Maybe. But then you would have the reputation of moving a player who took a significant hometown discount. Might hurt in the long run. Tough to sign or resign quality players when they are uncertain if they'll be dangled as trade bait.

[magicpixels]

I don't think Chicago would trade Leddy for Kipper even straight up. Leddy likely has one of the highest stocks amongst NHL defencemen at the moment.

The Schenn brothers would be our best bet to chase after. I think you are hard pressed to get both unless you are giving up Iggy and Kipper and swallowing the buyout on Bryzgalov.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by magicpixels

I don't think Chicago would trade Leddy for Kipper even straight up. Leddy likely has one of the highest stocks amongst NHL defencemen at the moment.

The Schenn brothers would be our best bet to chase after. I think you are hard pressed to get both unless you are giving up Iggy and Kipper and swallowing the buyout on Bryzgalov.

Really? He is their #5 dman I didn't think he had that much value

I think Luke Schenn has minimal value at the moment but I would like to have the brothers on the same team

Braydon is developing as a winger now as well is he not?

[Ashasx]

Brayden Schenn really isn't that impressive. He's just as overhyped as his brother was.

[magicpixels]

Leddy has huge stock. HUGE.

21 year old Dman with Top pairing potential that is an absolute stud right now.

[Heavy Jack]

^^^ Wow, I'd almost be tempted to do that deal and hang on to Ilya before buying him out, at least for a little bit.

To CGY:
Bryzgalof
Schenn
Schenn
1st

To PHI:
Iginla
Kipper
Butler
3rd

Tanguay - Schenn - Cammalleri
Glencross - Cervenka - Hudler

Bouw / Gio
Wideman / Schenn

The center situation looks better and Cammy replaces the gun on the right side that we lose in Iggy. Going forward we would have to look at options to regenerate the talent on the right side as Calgary is left-wing heavy going into next years off-season -- Cammy/Tanguay/Glencross/Baertschi.

[Roof-Daddy]

What a rape of a trade that was by Bowman.

(The Leddy trade)

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Brayden Schenn really isn't that impressive. He's just as overhyped as his brother was.

While I do agree he that he has yet to show the same kind of flash that he did as a junior and that he is a bit of a let down so far much like Luke he still did have a great showing in the playoffs last year and is a big-bodied center that could slot in as our top guy right now. If Iginla and Kipper get you a potential top 6 center, a top 5 D and a replacement #1 I think you at least have consider it.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

What a rape of a trade that was by Bowman.

(The Leddy trade)

Sold high in barker.