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Old 02-03-2013, 08:37 AM   #1
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While I'm generally like what Bob Hartley's been doing so far, I have to say I didn't like the system the Flames used on last night's 4-on-3 powerplay.

Here's why:

The Flames set up in in a diamond in front of the net. Essentially this functions as a 3-man umbrella with a screener in front of the goalie. While the passing lanes between the point man and the outside players in the umbrella are open the shooting lanes these three players had can be (and were) permanently blocked by the three defenders. There's no available passing lane to the guy in front of the goalie because those passing lanes and the shooting lanes are the same.

Here's what I'd suggest instead:

Instead of a diamond, how about a rectangle? Two point men high, and fairly close together, a forward on either side of the net slightly wider. Four disctinct shooting lanes that can't all be covered. Work the numerical advantage.

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Old 02-03-2013, 08:41 AM   #2
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How often would this scenario happen. I rather they just screen the goalie and have Wideman and Babchuk blast away from the point hoping to the get the rebound.
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:45 AM   #3
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I doubt Hartley has had much time to think about our 4-on-3 powerplay so far. I would however say that he had the right guys on it.
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I think the rectangle is what Sutter did. No?
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:48 AM   #5
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I think the rectangle is what Sutter did. No?
Yup. NO ONE in front of the net so the goalie sees every shot like it's practice.
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Bob Hartley was not on the ice executing the power play.
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Bob Hartley was not on the ice executing the power play.
I would have to go with this.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:28 AM   #8
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You're critiquing a PP that very nearly scored to end the game, and probably was barely touched upon so far this season?
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:32 AM   #9
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Is Hartley even responsible for the PP? For some reason i was under the impression that was a responsibility of Gelinas.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:40 PM   #10
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I am assuming that the 4 on 3 is likely not practiced a lot yet.

Personally I'd rather see them run an oval - sometimes ya gotta dare to be different
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:48 PM   #11
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It looked a lot like the 4-on-3 PP of last year. I suspect Hartley's work on it has been minimal given how different the 5-on-4 PP looks when it's set up.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:51 PM   #12
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Im pretty sure Gelinas is the Powerplay guy.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:53 PM   #13
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The powerplay in general has been a positive...this is the first time in years that it has been able to get across the blueline and set up with some form of regularity.
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So are we gonna be making a thread about what/ who we hate every time the flames lose? like really? wow...
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:01 PM   #15
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Chicago was tired, and collapsing down low all game, PP or ES.

Having just two Flames on the outside and just two down low wouldn't have been enough IMO. Given that Emery was making a lot of first saves, the more bodies the Flames had lower, the better, to be able to bang in rebounds and/or have an extra set of sticks and skates to deflect off of (as Wideman's goal was clear proof of).
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:06 PM   #17
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How about a rhombus?

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The strategy used is irrelevant, IMO. Any strategy can work or fail, and none are better than any of the others (talking about teh strategies at the NHL level).

The issue - and the key to success - is execution. For me, everything comes down to movement and causing the D to get out of position. The Flames are, far too often, stationary on the PP.

The diamond would work fine if they moved around and tried to create 2 on 1 situations.

While I am ranting about the PP, I also think the Flames don't generate enough speed in the neutral zone. Yes, there are times when it's good to slow things down, but the Flames ALWAYS slow it down. They need to put more pressure on the defense with a) speed, and b) more movement in the offensive zone
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^ The Flames haven't had a guy that could properly gain the zone, speed or not, powerplay or ES, since the sweet hands of Bertuzzi left.

Jokinen was ok at it, as he used pure speed, but it always looked a bit out of control.
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How about a rhombus?

that's funny
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