[PGT] Flames lose 6-3 vs Avs

[kehatch]

Listening to the Flames talk about the game. Sloppy. Not nearly good enough. Not good defensively. Turning the puck over way to many times.

Unlike some posters at least they aren't making excuses. They are not winning hockey games. But at least they are not making excuses.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Flames tied for last overall, come to daddy Nate!

With our luck he'll be a total bust.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

[EddyBeers]

Originally Posted by kehatch

Listening to the Flames talk about the game. Sloppy. Not nearly good enough. Not good defensively. Turning the puck over way to many times.

Unlike some posters at least they aren't making excuses. They are not winning hockey games. But at least they are not making excuses.

Just saw Iginla's comments after the loss and I reviewed them against my other 200 tapes of Iginla comments after Flames losses over the past 5 years and it seems like he is using the same comments tonight as he used during the previous 200 games.

[MolsonInBothHands]

Originally Posted by kehatch

Dumping on frustrated fans isn't a requisite to being optimistic. If the naive don't w. ant to be called on being naive then they shouldn't be crapping on fans who have had it and are venting. Fans have every reason to nt.

I get the need for some to vent on the team. Really.

But you entered this thread complaining about those with holier than thou tone, and proceed to adopt that tone. You have spent more time lashing out at fans, instead of those that deserve it. The team.

I loved the play of Hudler/Stajan/Cervenka. Was impressed with Bou. Back kind looking dangerous at times but has to finish. Butler needs to sit.

Still a fan. This is looking like a season of change, so may as well enjoy the ride.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Flames tied for last overall, come to daddy Nate!

we still need to lose all the games in hand on a bunch of teams...don't count your chickens

[3 Justin 3]

Originally Posted by Iginla

With our luck he'll be a total bust.

I laughed at this statement.






































Then I cried at this statement.

[nik-]

If we had the first overall pick, and we, this franchise who hasn't had a number 1 center in 17 years picked a D man with a potentially elite center sitting there I think I'd be done. I couldn't handle it.

That being said, again, we're not good, but we're not first overall bad.

[The Big Thirsty]

Originally Posted by kehatch

Listening to the Flames talk about the game. Sloppy. Not nearly good enough. Not good defensively. Turning the puck over way to many times.

Unlike some posters at least they aren't making excuses. They are not winning hockey games. But at least they are not making excuses.

That's the same story they give every game for the past 4 years. The post-game show on the Fan 960 isn't worth listening to until the call-ins start. I could almost write-down verbatim what the players and coaches are going to say after the game.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

A lot of bitter, "told you so" saggy naggies on here tonight.

Now that they've ripped apart the poor few optimistic souls I'd better run before they turn on me for being semi-optimistic. :|

human nature.

please don't be so naive to believe that if the Flames were 6-0, those optimistic souls would be ripping those who were pessimistic.

you know they would have.

[StrykerSteve]

I am absolutely ok with the Flames finishing last in the league this year. Keep losing, boys!

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by EddyBeers

Well it will be hard to blame the coach now, did that with Keenan and Sutter. It is almost like fans may have to blame the greatest leadership group in the history of hockey and the actual players in the room soon. Sutter always had this team in playoff contention and when the pressure was at its highest, this team folded, similar to 2005-2009. Only difference was that they folded in the regular season as opposed to the first round. Hell even the Canucks could win a round or two.....

Saying the flames missed the playoffs because of the pressure of the end of the season ignores their terrible starts and middles. Mostly, near the end of the season they played their best, it just wasn't good enough. Revisionist history. Sutter did not "get the most out of the players". If so, why did nearly every player that came to Calgary post some of their worst stats?

[The Big Thirsty]

Originally Posted by nik-

If we had the first overall pick, and we, this franchise who hasn't had a number 1 center in 17 years picked a D man with a potentially elite center sitting there I think I'd be done. I couldn't handle it.

That being said, again, we're not good, but we're not first overall bad.

You're forgetting about the lottery, fortunately all we have to be is 14th from the bottom to get a chance at the pick!

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by kehatch

Listening to the Flames talk about the game. Sloppy. Not nearly good enough. Not good defensively. Turning the puck over way to many times.

Unlike some posters at least they aren't making excuses. They are not winning hockey games. But at least they are not making excuses.

You're confusing excuses with reasons. Not one player is going to come out and say "we lost because of Kipper." or something to that effect. We as fans, can say stuff like that. Not a riddle.

[Iceman90]

Did Cammy seem like he was falling over all over the offensive zone tonight?

[EddyBeers]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

human nature.

please don't be so naive to believe that if the Flames were 6-0, those optimistic souls would be ripping those who were pessimistic.

you know they would have.

Come on, do you think that all the Sutter haters have disappeared because they are all on vacation? Of course they have, otherwise they would still be here explaining how great this team is and how bad the old coach is. You cannot possibly think that if the Flames were 5-0 that all those people would be on here talking about how great the Flames were and how they only needed a real NHL coach (not a WHL coach) to turn this elite group of talent around. Clearly they are all out of town right now.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by EddyBeers

Come on, do you think that all the Sutter haters have disappeared because they are all on vacation? You cannot possibly think that if the Flames were 5-0 that all those people would be on here talking about how great the Flames were and how they only needed a real NHL coach (not a WHL coach) to turn this elite group of talent around.

they will find a way to blame Sutter I am sure...

[nik-]

OK this overtime call with Mike and Pat is really creepy.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by EddyBeers

Come on, do you think that all the Sutter haters have disappeared because they are all on vacation? Of course they have, otherwise they would still be here explaining how great this team is and how bad the old coach is. You cannot possibly think that if the Flames were 5-0 that all those people would be on here talking about how great the Flames were and how they only needed a real NHL coach (not a WHL coach) to turn this elite group of talent around.

I'm not on vacation Beers, it's been a total of 5 games since the prior 246 of Sutter's boring hockey. At least this is more exciting hockey and the team didn't lose 1-0.

5 games man. Give Hartley 246 and then it's a fair comparison. For arguments sake, Sutter's roster at the worlds was miles better than the Flames is anyway.

[EddyBeers]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Saying the flames missed the playoffs because of the pressure of the end of the season ignores their terrible starts and middles. Mostly, near the end of the season they played their best, it just wasn't good enough. Revisionist history. Sutter did not "get the most out of the players". If so, why did nearly every player that came to Calgary post some of their worst stats?

Sutter and his system consistently had this team as a 90+ point team. I look forward to seeing Hartley get this group to such a level this year. I could absolutely careless about individual stats, even though Giordano, Glencross, Bourque all achieved career highs under Sutter, all I care about is whether a team wins.

Hartley is getting the most out of Stempniak this year, thank god for that.